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06-30-2010, 10:02 AM
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06-30-2010, 10:03 AM
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06-30-2010, 10:05 AM
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I am a FNWA 320 FO and I agree with you. Way too many captains I fly with want both engines started right away after push and leave them running all the way to the gate after landing....even in busy airports like ATL, ORD, JFK and LGA. I am always prompting them to see if they want me to shut one down after landing. Some take the hint....some don't. Many act like as if the 320 is a wide-body...they believe it takes two engines to taxi that thing and are afraid of higher jet blast from single engine taxi. (I don't think a 320 has ever blown over anything bigger than a bag cart in history). We have to spread the culture of single engine taxi across the board.
Sure....I want to ask for a big fat payraise (at least restore what we lost) in the next contract. One the same hand, I want to do the best to save the company money from the aircraft operations side (without compromising safety of course).
Sure....I want to ask for a big fat payraise (at least restore what we lost) in the next contract. One the same hand, I want to do the best to save the company money from the aircraft operations side (without compromising safety of course).
this really should be pushed a little harder as theres no reason why we 2 engine taxi as much as we do. Obviously its necessary sometimes to keep both running but it we should single engine taxi more often.
06-30-2010, 10:06 AM
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06-30-2010, 10:07 AM
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Legal?
Want to run this by guys in the know. With the new reserve schedule allowing more days on reserve what do you think about this scenario:
Reserve pilot has a schedule with 8 days straight before an X day. Starts off with long call for 3 days; no call from scheduling saying he's getting a break from LC. Then on day 4 he starts a 4-day trip that includes a 30-hr layover between day 2 and 3. Is this legal?
Reserve pilot has a schedule with 8 days straight before an X day. Starts off with long call for 3 days; no call from scheduling saying he's getting a break from LC. Then on day 4 he starts a 4-day trip that includes a 30-hr layover between day 2 and 3. Is this legal?
06-30-2010, 10:09 AM
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I am a FNWA 320 FO and I agree with you. Way too many captains I fly with want both engines started right away after push and leave them running all the way to the gate after landing....even in busy airports like ATL, ORD, JFK and LGA. I am always prompting them to see if they want me to shut one down after landing. Some take the hint....some don't. Many act like as if the 320 is a wide-body...they believe it takes two engines to taxi that thing and are afraid of higher jet blast from single engine taxi. (I don't think a 320 has ever blown over anything bigger than a bag cart in history). We have to spread the culture of single engine taxi across the board.
Sure....I want to ask for a big fat payraise (at least restore what we lost) in the next contract. One the same hand, I want to do the best to save the company money from the aircraft operations side (without compromising safety of course).
Sure....I want to ask for a big fat payraise (at least restore what we lost) in the next contract. One the same hand, I want to do the best to save the company money from the aircraft operations side (without compromising safety of course).
06-30-2010, 10:09 AM
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Want to run this by guys in the know. With the new reserve schedule allowing more days on reserve what do you think about this scenario:
Reserve pilot has a schedule with 8 days straight before an X day. Starts off with long call for 3 days; no call from scheduling saying he's getting a break from LC. Then on day 4 he starts a 4-day trip that includes a 30-hr layover between day 2 and 3. Is this legal?
Reserve pilot has a schedule with 8 days straight before an X day. Starts off with long call for 3 days; no call from scheduling saying he's getting a break from LC. Then on day 4 he starts a 4-day trip that includes a 30-hr layover between day 2 and 3. Is this legal?
06-30-2010, 10:32 AM
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What's funny is that with both engines running on the bus, the Captain always seems like he's riding the brakes to keep the plane from taxiing too quickly. I've never single engine taxied an Airbus before, but it seems like it'd be pretty easy to do. Probably easier than the -88!
06-30-2010, 10:34 AM
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What's funny is that with both engines running on the bus, the Captain always seems like he's riding the brakes to keep the plane from taxiing too quickly. I've never single engine taxied an Airbus before, but it seems like it'd be a pretty easy to do. Probably easier than the -88!
Having spent 12 years doing single-engine taxi on the MD-88, I see no problem with it on the DC-9... with some caveats:
- Yes, the DC-9 engines have less thrust than the MD-88 engines and, at heavy weights it requires a few seconds longer to get rolling without using too much breakaway thrust.
- There are places like MEM where single-engine taxi is prohibited in some of the alleyways.
- Because the DC-9 can generally only run one pack off the APU, there are also considerations for keeping the aircraft cool in the summer.
- And then there's the problem with the single-engine taxi weight restrictions in the Vol 1... which I think are ridiculously low... and the fact that the OE Guide contradicts the Vol 1 and says there is no weight limit for single-engine taxi.
Anyway, I have been doing single-engine taxi when it makes sense to do so, and it has worked out just fine... just like it does on the MD-88.
06-30-2010, 10:35 AM
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Even on the ER at JFK we would start both after push, get moving and then shut one down for taxi.
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