iaflyer

Someone said they saw them in the CPO Office in JFK - I doubt they'll be online anywhere, until the whole thing is announced in a big press release.

Then it will take, my guess, a minimum of 4 years until it's done and we're moved in. Well, maybe less because it's mostly construction on T4.

JetBlue announced they were building a new terminal in 2004. They started operations there in Oct 2008.

Jetblue had the advantage of not having to operate of the facility that they were rebuilding, like we might have to.

chuck416

There MAY be a nugget of truth in that. These days, I always wear my hat--my employer requires it of me. When I worked for another line (NWA) they had this really dufus policy of "...hat optional with the uniform..." It always irked me that the official policy was essentially, "...oh, that part of your uniform, it's at your discretion..." WHAT, exactly, is uniform about a policy like that. Now days, at least you are able to tell if a guy is on board with company policy & direction, or just has some kinda' vanity issue with his (receding, usually) hair. To all my north-side (pardon the term this time) peers---Wear your hat. Your employer requires it, and you make yourself look like a jerk.
Thanks. I had to get that off my chest. It bugs me.
Chuck

ExAF

I'll start by saying I wear my hat because that is the company policy. However, when you call the former company policy a "dufus" policy because you didn't like it, you put yourself into the same category of the guys not wearing their hat now. Pot met kettle. I'd love to go back to that "dufus" policy. I'll bet you're really short and put your hand it the front of your new double breasted blazer.

forgot to bid

And that is total b.s.

And that should not be happening and hopefully someone will take care of it shortly. I'm going to say something that will probably get me stoned by a mob, remember only men are allowed to throw stones - Life of Brian, but when many of us new hires were sitting in initial indoc there were multiple times we scratched our heads over procedures. I think thats when you realize this airline is old and set in its ways and so are many people and those who wanted to change things (go talk to the fine folks in JFK) will tell you how they tried and gave up.

All that said, I'll say today what I said then: "thank God I'm here, and if thats the way they want it done then I'll do it with pride, but I hope they change it though ."

I think as a DALS pilot you hear someone complain about how DALS did it and the initial reaction is to defend it as its not so much about the subject matter but how it was raised. But at the same time it was complained about premerger.

I'm just calling it how I see it. We don't need to fly 767/757s like we flew 727s because some guy thinks it should be done that way. We shouldn't have maintained MD11s like they were L1011s to the verge of having warranties canceled. And whatever other example can be raised.

But I sure hope to God what made Delta a great place for pilots to work remains intact and thats going to take us as a group fighting to keep it that way.

Keep the good and the great, throw out the dumb and the bad. Goes along with if you need it run it, if you don't, don't run it.

My hope is the pressure comes from higher up where the real decisions are made to get with the combined program especially as we move forward. Especially since the ones in power aren't necessarily tied to either airline and probably will have little patience for those who buck change. And that's textbook business management.

Sorry for the long response.

Carl Spackler

Hard to argue with the Duke!

Carl

Carl Spackler

You're right about handling change, and everybody is different. But most of the complaints and worries that I have and hear of are not that things are changing. When the merger was announced I had great hopes of Delta bringing state of the art change. That was my assumption as to how Delta operated. Most of us fNWA guys now see that assumption was wrong.

Resistance to change is human nature, but when change makes things better, even the most hard headed come around. But when change takes you demonstrably backward, and our new company's stats prove it, then the change is just sad.

Carl

Carl Spackler

Oh...I see how you roll. When you're around beautiful women, you take OFF the collar of shame!

Carl

Carl Spackler

Interesting how you characterize my posts as "screaming." Care to post an example of what you call "screaming?"

Carl

KC10 FATboy

I just passed through Atlanta. I couldn't believe the number of pilots I saw walking through the terminal with no hat. Not only was it not on, it wasn't even on their person (perhaps stuff in the bag?). As a fDAL guy who has never been based in ATL, that is something I'd never do and is a very good way to unnecessarily highlight yourself; although most who aren't wearing the hat probably don't care.

Carl:

Are you in MSP? If so, lets have a beer. I'll buy.

Carl Spackler

Let's see. Schwanker posts something that even you say was a good argument. But then his last sentence make him lose credibility in your eyes and everything you used to think was good, is now not.

Note to self: If you say one thing that tsquare doesn't agree with, you lose all credibility and then he has to disagree with everything that he used to agree with.

Carl