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Old 06-25-2010, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Carl,

While we obviously don't agree on everything (I wouldn't trust anyone who always agreed with me anyway) - it certainly is refreshing to have a discussion on an adult level sticking to relevant arguments vice personal attacks, which I see far to often on this forum, but not necessarily this thread.

As I have said many times before - there is nothing wrong with disagreement on this board, in fact I generally think it adds to the discussion.

I do however, agree wholeheartedly with you that it is results that matter - Hopefully DAL will start getting better results - heck I think the "Law of averages" is even on our side - we (DAL) can't always screw up - can we?

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Yet another good point.

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Old 06-25-2010, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I am in Boston on a layover. I just heard on the radio CNET's 5 review??? (Never heard it before)

However, it was the Top 5 reasons why you probably shouldn't by the new iPhone4. "Yeah, God might carry one, but you can skip the iPhone4"

1. No 4G. Despite it's name, it only used the slower 3G networks.
So does Verzion.
2. No longer unlimited data. If you change carriers, you're going to pay.
Assuming one is not already an iPhone user. Plus 98% of iPhone users use LESS then what the highest limited data plan offers. It's no big deal.
3. No Verizon, still. Even CNET says, AT&T sucks.
Haven't had any problems.
4. Cancellation fines increased to $325.
Ok. Point?
5. The new phone doesn't change the playing field or save the world. Apple over hyped this phone. Many of these upgrades are playing catchup with the competition.
Like???? And if it's catching up with the competition, why is the competition less popular?
Seems like a weak argument to me.
Last time checked Apples stock is doing just fine. Most people who want a smartphone don't want it for the things Blackberry's or old style windows based systems can do.

You don't have to like the iPhone, but they had to stop pre-orders at 600,000 on the 15th. I'd say plenty of people like them just fine.

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Old 06-25-2010, 12:16 PM
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Popcorn anyone.....
UAL/CAL pilot talks hit snag: pilots union - Yahoo! Finance
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
Quick question. Once you get your manuals for new equipment, how do you keep them current until you convert? I have a stack of MD-88 stuff sitting in my house but don't go to training until December. Is there a way to sign up to get revisions?
Not unless you can wrangle them out of your base. I was standing in line behind a guy at the Manuals window in Atlanta in the same boat as you. He got his pubs months early and was trying to exchange them for an updated set. They wanted to charge him $135!!! They told him he got the pubs he ordered when he ordered them and was on his own for the updates.

Moral of the story: don't order your pubs until very close to your class date. Then pull several all-nighters doing the cd's. Or, order the aircraft pubs and Jepps separately; that should keep the updating to a minimum.
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:49 PM
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Secondhand from JFK base meeting:

- Shipsets for the 330 in July, 7ER in Sep, remainder early 2011. Outstanding!
- New weight/balance hybrid NWA/DL product in fall. Not required prior to push
- JFK terminal announcement Jun 29 (2010 I think )
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
Secondhand from JFK base meeting:

- Shipsets for the 330 in July, 7ER in Sep, remainder early 2011. Outstanding!
- New weight/balance hybrid NWA/DL product in fall. Not required prior to push
- JFK terminal announcement Jun 29 (2010 I think )
Nice! Thanks for sharing.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The SkyTeam airline alliance, whose members include Delta Air Lines Inc. and Air France-KLM, said it’s talking with about a dozen other carriers to join the group and may add two of them by year-end.




What are the chances we are Skyteam by Delta Air Lines by 2020?
90%. Been my point for a few years.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You know good and well the influence that any fNWA person had during the transition. That was not even a good effort ACL.

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Carl, I was not on the A team. These are the biggest reasons that were stated to me. I know the issues with SAP and trying to ramrod other programs in to their templates. It never works well. My wife transitioned to SAP, and once those templates are made, it is very difficult to have them reworked

I also know that they like your functionality and are working on making the functionality of the new system. We have what we have, and the decisions have been made. I like what you had, but my understanding is that there were really good reasons for the decisions they made. It was not a N v S issue.

I know there was a lot of ton of influence on the decisions made from the F-NWA group that was involved. I do believe that going forward you will see many things reappear and we will be dealing with the "new to us" items.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
Secondhand from JFK base meeting:

- Shipsets for the 330 in July, 7ER in Sep, remainder early 2011. Outstanding!
- New weight/balance hybrid NWA/DL product in fall. Not required prior to push
- JFK terminal announcement Jun 29 (2010 I think )
They have been saying the 29th for the announcement for some time. Hope it holds.

Sept cannot come soon enough since my flight kit is about to die.

Nu:
I would love the ability to have scheduling get us on test, e-mail et al.

Should we demand a RIM based phone, 20 bucks a month for a text plan, what else should we ask for to give this benefit to the company. I know they would like it, so what are we willing to take to get it?

Netjets has a blackberry that has a bunch of programs on it. They send your next days sked or a reroute to the phone and you ack it, your are fatigued, you ack it. I like that idea, but for 12000 plus pilots that phone is a huge expense. Would you be willing to buy a smart phone that would be required to have these programs on it? We need to find a way to make this work for us, and for them.

Start discussing this!
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:57 PM
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Nu:
I would love the ability to have scheduling get us on test, e-mail et al.

Should we demand a RIM based phone, 20 bucks a month for a text plan, what else should we ask for to give this benefit to the company. I know they would like it, so what are we willing to take to get it?

Netjets has a blackberry that has a bunch of programs on it. They send your next days sked or a reroute to the phone and you ack it, your are fatigued, you ack it. I like that idea, but for 12000 plus pilots that phone is a huge expense. Would you be willing to buy a smart phone that would be required to have these programs on it? We need to find a way to make this work for us, and for them.

Start discussing this!
I try to hide from scheduling.
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