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Old 06-25-2010, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
The iPhone may be a great success for Apple; however, I feel they are making the same mistakes they did with their desktops in the 80s 90s. They are very proprietary and have even shut out software writers who didn't see it Apple's way. Android is open source, can use flash, and in a few years has taken up 25% of the phone market. Couple that together with Google's dominance in the ad wars, I'm afraid to say that Apply might have again jeopardized a good future.
THIS.

For as much ranting they do, Apple is turning into a Microsoft clone, and is becoming just as heavy handed.

I'll be more impressed when I can pick up my iPhone and plug it into USB and drag and drop files onto it like I could do with my ancient iPod mini (6 years ago). Or sync the phone over WiFi or Bluetooth (something I could do with my decrepit Palm 515).

So let me get this straight....the only way I CAN put files on my iPhone is through a ridiculous workaround (wifi), but you won't let me drag and drop over USB. But you won't let me sync the phone in any other way THAN USB?

Apple's insistance of a closed file system, and a rule of no data conduits has crippled apps from being truly effective.

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 1234
Which system was state of the art, pentry, access, pars? Our systems were very old at the core of the system. There were some nice new interfaces for the gate agents and Atlas but the core system was still ancient.
The core of Windows 7 is MsDOS. The core of many of Oracle's enterprise products is Oracle's database language. Same with Apple. Who cares how old the core is? It's all about usability and productivity.

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:27 AM
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I'd rather have the 318s on the property than that festering, putrid boil that is the plague of RJs.

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Could you elaborate on that a bit?

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
Walmart is selling the original Droid for $20 now with contract. DroidX is supposed to debut mid-July for $200. I am waiting until its released to see if its worth the extra money.
I am in Boston on a layover. I just heard on the radio CNET's 5 review??? (Never heard it before)

However, it was the Top 5 reasons why you probably shouldn't by the new iPhone4. "Yeah, God might carry one, but you can skip the iPhone4"

1. No 4G. Despite it's name, it only used the slower 3G networks.
2. No longer unlimited data. If you change carriers, you're going to pay.
3. No Verizon, still. Even CNET says, AT&T sucks.
4. Cancellation fines increased to $325.
5. The new phone doesn't change the playing field or save the world. Apple over hyped this phone. Many of these upgrades are playing catchup with the competition.
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:34 AM
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You are nothing if not consistent slowplay. Why do you make this stuff up? You have no way of proving that statement. Are you just too used to nobody calling you on your opinions stated like they were facts?

Amazing.

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A guy with obviously a huge amount of knowledge of the inner workings of this place makes statements and you call them opinions. You make a statement about such areas as IT (which I'm sure you are quite the expert) and it's to be taken as fact. Amazing.
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:35 AM
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Quick question. Once you get your manuals for new equipment, how do you keep them current until you convert? I have a stack of MD-88 stuff sitting in my house but don't go to training until December. Is there a way to sign up to get revisions?
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
The core of Windows 7 is MsDOS. The core of many of Oracle's enterprise products is Oracle's database language. Same with Apple. Who cares how old the core is? It's all about usability and productivity.

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Carl is correct. While the "front end" of Access was very simple, the back end was VERY sophisticated.

One software module was capable of dynamically scheduling the entire airline on the fly, day to day, matching aircraft and crews to passenger loads WHILE respecting the aircraft's MX needs.

Got empty seats on the 757? Put a 320 on it. Need more seats on that DC-9-30 run? Throw a -50 on it. Extremely powerful.

The end state of this would be to have crews simply bid 1,2,3,4,5, etc trips, and start and end times. Everything else would be on-the-fly. Obviously this had a lot of PWA and marketing implications, which were never solved, but the system WAS capable of this.

But what DID come out of were some of the dynamic rescheduling tools that could literally bootstrap the airline from a standstill IROP, including aircraft and crew scheduling. Something along the lines of an ice storm, or other WX event didn't even make it's electons sweat.

Combined with the automation that the schedulers had at their disposal (automatic crew contact via voice/text/email), and it made things run pretty smooth. I didn't actually talk to a crew scheduler for years until BP5.

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:39 AM
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Carl,

I normally agree with a lot of your posts but it looks like we disagree strongly on this topic:

As far as "Delta Pride" goes - Any pride I had in Delta left the minute they furloughed me while outsourcing hundreds of flights to DCI.
I know that Scoop. My reference to stubborn Delta pride was aimed at management, since they are the decision makers.

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As far as errors go - any technology related errors are so far behind much more monumental errors that I guess I never noticed. When I think of DAL management errors the following comes to mind:

Billions on stock buybacks - stock goes to zero - brilliant!
Buy COMAIR High - sell low - brilliant!
Lose hundreds of millions on upside down fuel hedges.
Spend billions on fuel guzzling 50 seat RJs - brilliant!
All excellent points.

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As you can infer I am not really a kool aid drinker when it comes to DAL managerial decisions. With that being said, I personally know B.W. and am very happy he has been selected for his new position. I think its good news for all DAL pilots.
I hope you're right Scoop, I really do. I'm cautioning everyone about their enthusiasm based on a resume. This individual has a recent record. I hope he is more effective in this role, than he was previously.

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Additionally, you say you don't care about resumes yet you bemoan another "south" guy getting a job in management. If resumes don't matter, then why do you care if management comes from N or S.

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I'm not bemoaning another south guy getting a management job. I am bemoaning our really talented and proven guys from fNWA being forced out. It's very difficult to believe that none of our guys were good enough to be kept on or promoted. If the roles were reversed, you couldn't help but notice.

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
A guy with obviously a huge amount of knowledge of the inner workings of this place makes statements and you call them opinions. You make a statement about such areas as IT (which I'm sure you are quite the expert) and it's to be taken as fact. Amazing.
He may know something about "this" place, but he made a declarative and unprovable statement about NWA. A company he doesn't work for. Get it now??

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I know that Scoop. My reference to stubborn Delta pride was aimed at management, since they are the decision makers.



All excellent points.



I hope you're right Scoop, I really do. I'm cautioning everyone about their enthusiasm based on a resume. This individual has a recent record. I hope he is more effective in this role, than he was previously.



I'm not bemoaning another south guy getting a management job. I am bemoaning our really talented and proven guys from fNWA being forced out. It's very difficult to believe that none of our guys were good enough to be kept on or promoted. If the roles were reversed, you couldn't help but notice.

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Carl,

While we obviously don't agree on everything (I wouldn't trust anyone who always agreed with me anyway) - it certainly is refreshing to have a discussion on an adult level sticking to relevant arguments vice personal attacks, which I see far to often on this forum, but not necessarily this thread.

As I have said many times before - there is nothing wrong with disagreement on this board, in fact I generally think it adds to the discussion.

I do however, agree wholeheartedly with you that it is results that matter - Hopefully DAL will start getting better results - heck I think the "Law of averages" is even on our side - we (DAL) can't always screw up - can we?

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