DAL4EVER

That, or he's just a self serving, narcissistic, money grubbing wh^re.

DAL4EVER

Unless its happened, the FO will grieve his termination. Only the outcome of that will determine his fate.

Carl Spackler

Unfortunately, you're absolutely correct.

Sigh,

Carl

acl65pilot

PG is correct. That is the reasoning that the NKS guys are stating.

all4114all

The difference between the NWA pilots being terminated and the Delta pilots that landed on the wrong runway in ATL, is the way the media handled the story and more importantly, the way the company handled the media. The FAA assisted in the flow of information in both incidents. NWA, high flow, DAL, low flow.

Both these incidents happened within a few weeks. It is far more dangerous to land on the wrong runway, than overflying a destination in my humble opinion.

finis72

you are so out of the loop on this. The FAA accepted the taxiway landing in ASAP because of extenuating circumstances and lessons learned. The FAA did not accept the overflight because of the lack of the above. Both DL and the FAA thoroughly investigated both events and came to the same conclusion.

all4114all

If I was in the back of the airplane and had my choice of an overfly, or landing on the wrong runway, I would of chose the overfly. The extenuating circumstances are the same, distraction. The difference was there was a check airman on DAL when the runway incident happened.

DFW Refugee

Uncle:

Go to DBMS; Personnel; Cross Ref.; type in 'cann'; enter the corresponding number and enter. You'll find his full name, hire date, e-mail and assorted phone numbers...(at least you could when I checked last night.) If you'd like, call him up and /or e-mail him and find out.

Please report back what you find out.

Respectfully,

DFW...

acl65pilot

All;
This type of back and forth of issues that are being dealt with by ALP, D-ALPA, the company and the FAA only serves to divide our group.

I honestly believe that DAL and ALPA will do everything within their power in regard to this issue. The facts are that the pilots opted to take the revocation and one year suspension for the opportunity to regain their certificates in a year time. That year is quickly approaching. Instead of firing shots, lets look at what has been said by both the company and ALPA. Facts, no more, no less.
ALPA has not commented. Is that odd to you? It means that they do not comment on active cases. It means that the issue is on going. I understand the angst you have, but firing a volley at one crew to spare the other is divisive. Both cases are separate and have their own set of circumstances. Let the ones working for the benefit of the pilots involved do their jobs. Trust me when I say that everyone wants a successful outcome to this.

Also understand that pilots sometimes get rehired after they are fired. There are legal steps in each instance, and no two are the same. Patience, no one is being left out in the wind. Sometimes their is success and some times there is not. I kindly ask for you to not rehash something that will benefit no one.

Mem9guy

Extenuating circumstances and lessons learned have nothing to do with being excepted into ASAP. One was deemed to have been a "willful violation of the FAR's" disqualifying it from ASAP, the other was not.