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06-14-2010, 03:03 PM
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Guys, call this number. It's the Strike Center (954) 922-0942. Offer your help and support. Also, ask them to email you a copy of the last contract proposal. If you think our profession is worth what management is proposing, then I hope you burn in hell LOL.
06-14-2010, 03:36 PM
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So Buzz, you're the world class writer, affect or effect, did I do it right?
I'm kind of naive, so what does that mean didn't pack much?
As the largest pilot group in the country, maybe we should collectively help our friends at Spirit. They are risking their livelihood by striking on behalf of all of us...but holding the bar up for all.
If all 12120 pilots on Delta seniority list donate $100 each, we can pay each of all 441 active Spirit pilots around $2750 . That will help them put food on the table for their families as they go through this challenging month.
If their strike continues for long or even worse lose their jobs, we have an obligation to help them out. Our unity will also send a very clear message to airline managements across the country.
Just an idea for our union folks to look into. Strictly a volunteer program. May be the union should publish and send an e-mail with a guideline on how much to donate and where to donate. May be our union leadership should join hands with some other airline and collectively do this endeavour.
If all 12120 pilots on Delta seniority list donate $100 each, we can pay each of all 441 active Spirit pilots around $2750 . That will help them put food on the table for their families as they go through this challenging month.
If their strike continues for long or even worse lose their jobs, we have an obligation to help them out. Our unity will also send a very clear message to airline managements across the country.
Just an idea for our union folks to look into. Strictly a volunteer program. May be the union should publish and send an e-mail with a guideline on how much to donate and where to donate. May be our union leadership should join hands with some other airline and collectively do this endeavour.
06-14-2010, 03:43 PM
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For those of you who are wondering and are on reserve, this is from one of seventeen worthwhile pages from that December 1, 2009 Scheduling Alert I mentioned last night, and this is what happens at 0800 every morning:
How It All Comes Together
When the scheduler begins the trip coverage process, he generates what is known as a Trip Coverage (TC) report. This report lists all available and “legal to fly” pilots for the specific length of trips to be covered, e.g. four-day trips, in order from lowest to highest RAW value. It first lists pilots with days of availability matching the length of trips to be covered, followed by pilots in each successive group of days of availability. For example, a two-day trip TC report will list two-day pilots, then three-day pilots, then four-day pilots. Scheduling must attempt to cover rotations that are outside of 12 hours to report in order of their lengths (longest rotation covered first).
A seniority sequence number is displayed after the employee number to indicate relative seniority among the pilots on the list. If a pilot has lowered his RAW value, this will also be indicated on the report.
If two pilots have the same RAW value and:
source: deltapilots.org > library > scheduling committee > scheduling alert > scheduling alert 09-05: Reserve Utilization Days and Moving X-Days.
How It All Comes Together
When the scheduler begins the trip coverage process, he generates what is known as a Trip Coverage (TC) report. This report lists all available and “legal to fly” pilots for the specific length of trips to be covered, e.g. four-day trips, in order from lowest to highest RAW value. It first lists pilots with days of availability matching the length of trips to be covered, followed by pilots in each successive group of days of availability. For example, a two-day trip TC report will list two-day pilots, then three-day pilots, then four-day pilots. Scheduling must attempt to cover rotations that are outside of 12 hours to report in order of their lengths (longest rotation covered first).
A seniority sequence number is displayed after the employee number to indicate relative seniority among the pilots on the list. If a pilot has lowered his RAW value, this will also be indicated on the report.
If two pilots have the same RAW value and:
• Each has submitted a yellow slip to reduce his RAW value; the senior pilot will appear first on the report.
• Neither pilot has reduced his RAW value; the junior pilot will appear first on the report.
• Only one of the two pilots has reduced his RAW value, the pilot who has reduced his RAW value will appear first on the report.
Every pilot who appears on the TC report is available and legal to fly at least one trip that meets the criteria of the request. The report lists the trip(s) that each pilot is available and legal to fly, in the following sequence:• Neither pilot has reduced his RAW value; the junior pilot will appear first on the report.
• Only one of the two pilots has reduced his RAW value, the pilot who has reduced his RAW value will appear first on the report.
• Trips that meet the pilot’s preference qualifiers “if needed to fly.” These trips will have an asterisk next to the rotation number.
If the pilot has more than one trip that satisfies his preference qualifiers and he selected any one of the following preference qualifiers:
�� LATEST REPORT AVAILABLE,
�� EARLIEST BLOCK-IN AVAILABLE,
�� MOST BLOCK TIME FOR AVAILABLE ROTATION(S), or
�� HIGHEST TOTAL TIME FOR AVAILABLE ROTATION(S), then the trips will appear in the selected preference qualifier sequence.
If he did not select one of the four preference qualifiers listed, his “preferred” trips will appear in descending order of total credit.
�� LATEST REPORT AVAILABLE,
�� EARLIEST BLOCK-IN AVAILABLE,
�� MOST BLOCK TIME FOR AVAILABLE ROTATION(S), or
�� HIGHEST TOTAL TIME FOR AVAILABLE ROTATION(S), then the trips will appear in the selected preference qualifier sequence.
If he did not select one of the four preference qualifiers listed, his “preferred” trips will appear in descending order of total credit.
• Trips that do not meet his preference qualifiers, listed in descending order of total credit.
Note: Again, preference qualifiers “if needed to fly” are relevant only after the decision has been made that the pilot will fly based upon his RAW value. They have no impact on whether or not the pilot will fly.source: deltapilots.org > library > scheduling committee > scheduling alert > scheduling alert 09-05: Reserve Utilization Days and Moving X-Days.
06-14-2010, 03:53 PM
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Looks like your senior to me so you should just stay where you are!!
Just kidding. Tried to add my answer under your questions, hope it worked:
Just kidding. Tried to add my answer under your questions, hope it worked:Hello.
I'm a furloughed/bypassed NWA/Delta pilot considering a return and was looking for some answers to all of my questions. Some background on me. Married with 2 young boys. I would have to commute to work from KORD or KMDW. My currrent seniority is around 109XX. Furloughed from NWA in Jan '02. I'm currently flying corporate Part 91 based out of KMDW.
1. Would I be able to hold a line on the 80/320/757-767 based out of DTW or MSP?
The 80 is only in MSP and yes you could hold a line, the others it might be resv.
2. If I was able to hold a line would it be commutable?
On the 80 most likely yes
3. How many days off a month could I expect with a typical line.
15-17
4. Does everybody seem to be getting along after the merger?
Yes, IMO
5. What does health insurance currently cost for a family of four? No HMO's.
$200 per month is what I pay and that seems to be the best bangfor the buck plan but there are cheaper ones but they have more and or higher expenses.
6. Your thoughts on whether the job is professionally satisfying or just a weekly grind.
That is so subjective. If you like flying and can leave all the other BS at the airport when your done it is extremely satisfying. Are there things that need to be better or improved, ABSOLUTELY. Did we get raped in bankruptcy ...hell yeah. It is what it is move fwd try and make things better and enjoy the job. If you can't do that get out of the biz.....sorry off my soap box.
7. What are your thoughts on future scope rules?
I think they will be tightened, but I don't see us recapturing any of the currently outsourced flying. (eg the e170-175's)
8. Anything else that might help my family make a decision.
I'm not much a support here but if you got any specific questions feel free to pm me....good luck with your decision
Thanks for your time! I enjoy reading this thread and would love to return to Delta if I can make the numbers and quality of life issues work.
Regards
I'm a furloughed/bypassed NWA/Delta pilot considering a return and was looking for some answers to all of my questions. Some background on me. Married with 2 young boys. I would have to commute to work from KORD or KMDW. My currrent seniority is around 109XX. Furloughed from NWA in Jan '02. I'm currently flying corporate Part 91 based out of KMDW.
1. Would I be able to hold a line on the 80/320/757-767 based out of DTW or MSP?
The 80 is only in MSP and yes you could hold a line, the others it might be resv.
2. If I was able to hold a line would it be commutable?
On the 80 most likely yes
3. How many days off a month could I expect with a typical line.
15-17
4. Does everybody seem to be getting along after the merger?
Yes, IMO
5. What does health insurance currently cost for a family of four? No HMO's.
$200 per month is what I pay and that seems to be the best bangfor the buck plan but there are cheaper ones but they have more and or higher expenses.
6. Your thoughts on whether the job is professionally satisfying or just a weekly grind.
That is so subjective. If you like flying and can leave all the other BS at the airport when your done it is extremely satisfying. Are there things that need to be better or improved, ABSOLUTELY. Did we get raped in bankruptcy ...hell yeah. It is what it is move fwd try and make things better and enjoy the job. If you can't do that get out of the biz.....sorry off my soap box.
7. What are your thoughts on future scope rules?
I think they will be tightened, but I don't see us recapturing any of the currently outsourced flying. (eg the e170-175's)
8. Anything else that might help my family make a decision.
I'm not much a support here but if you got any specific questions feel free to pm me....good luck with your decision
Thanks for your time! I enjoy reading this thread and would love to return to Delta if I can make the numbers and quality of life issues work.
Regards
06-14-2010, 04:09 PM
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