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06-06-2010, 12:29 PM
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When does the reserve availability list come out, really? It seems like it used to be 06:30, not its been 0700 but thats when the PCS run goes. When you're aiming for a trip its nice to know whether to pull or keep that low yellow but you're committed at 0700.
06-06-2010, 12:40 PM
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I have a question about international pay. I'll be on reserve in the -ER. If I fly an international trip, but don't break guarantee, do I still get the international override? Will it show up as extra pay on top of my 70 hour guarantee? Or is it somehow converted to credit towards guarantee?
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06-06-2010, 12:41 PM
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I suspect they would like to get all the "colors" out.
We're all one book now.
I have no idea about the particular individual in question, he's probably a great guy and retired for personal reasons, not political, but:
Going forward, anybody who exhibits a "partisan" mindset is probably not going to be chosen for supervisory positions.
That goes for red/green partisans or north/south partisans.
We've merged. All those old arguments are now historical relics.
Its pointless to continue the sectarian bickering.
We're all one book now.
I have no idea about the particular individual in question, he's probably a great guy and retired for personal reasons, not political, but:
Going forward, anybody who exhibits a "partisan" mindset is probably not going to be chosen for supervisory positions.
That goes for red/green partisans or north/south partisans.
We've merged. All those old arguments are now historical relics.
Its pointless to continue the sectarian bickering.
The "ethnic cleansing" is almost complete, so the airline can continue battling the Amish for technical superiority.
Carl
06-06-2010, 12:45 PM
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One thing to think about is those guys may have agreed to stay on for a while after the merger to help out. For fNWA guys that still have a pension it may be time to hang it up. Just saying, let's not get too sinister here with great fNWA suddenly retiring - I"m sure they will both be missed. Do agree we shouldn't have a guy with NO 747 experience being fleet captain.
Carl
06-06-2010, 01:00 PM
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OK, you have a problem with color examples. I'll rephrase. Delta is not interested in having any former NWA pilots in management positions. Their lives are made miserable and nothing they say is listened to. Eventually they get the hint and either retire or return to the line. Trust me, that is the new Delta's loss.
The "ethnic cleansing" is almost complete, so the airline can continue battling the Amish for technical superiority.
Carl
The "ethnic cleansing" is almost complete, so the airline can continue battling the Amish for technical superiority.
Carl
06-06-2010, 01:07 PM
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I don't think that's correct.
If you're a reserve, look at your "pay statement" in DBMS. (not your time card; not your paycheck)
Reserves get the int'l override even if they don't break guarantee.
This happens to me nearly every month.
On the pay statement, you get paid for the int'l trips you fly (including the override) and then if you don't have 70 hours they pay you for the number of hours you are short of 70 (without the override).
ie = I flew 59 reserve hours in April and some of it included intl override. I got paid for all that flying including appropriate overrides. Then I got 11 additional hours of pay to get to 70. Logically, the 11 "guarantee" hours did not include the override.
If you're a reserve, look at your "pay statement" in DBMS. (not your time card; not your paycheck)
Reserves get the int'l override even if they don't break guarantee.
This happens to me nearly every month.
On the pay statement, you get paid for the int'l trips you fly (including the override) and then if you don't have 70 hours they pay you for the number of hours you are short of 70 (without the override).
ie = I flew 59 reserve hours in April and some of it included intl override. I got paid for all that flying including appropriate overrides. Then I got 11 additional hours of pay to get to 70. Logically, the 11 "guarantee" hours did not include the override.
06-06-2010, 01:14 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but you are still getting paid the equivalent of 70 domestic hours, right? I think he was asking if you see anything over 70 from international pay if you don't break guarantee. So, do you see anything in your take home pay different when flying 40 hours of international vs. 40 hours of domestic? (other than a little more per diem)
06-06-2010, 01:15 PM
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Check Essential is correct...when you fly an international trip on reserve, you get paid for those hours both regular hourly rate and the Int. override. Then, any additional hours needed to get up to 70 are paid at regular rate only.
06-06-2010, 01:24 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but you are still getting paid the equivalent of 70 domestic hours, right? I think he was asking if you see anything over 70 from international pay if you don't break guarantee. So, do you see anything in your take home pay different when flying 40 hours of international vs. 40 hours of domestic? (other than a little more per diem)
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06-06-2010, 01:27 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but you are still getting paid the equivalent of 70 domestic hours, right? I think he was asking if you see anything over 70 from international pay if you don't break guarantee. So, do you see anything in your take home pay different when flying 40 hours of international vs. 40 hours of domestic? (other than a little more per diem)
18 credit hrs paid at domestic rate plus inter. override.
10 credit hours paid at domestic.
42 credit hours paid at domestic to bring you up to 70 hours.
Bottom line...you make more money if you actually go out and fly an international trip, even if you never break gaurantee. Clear now?
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