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Old 06-06-2010, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I release the brakes and I've got all the integrity in the world. What I don't have time for is to have to wonder if the company is going to try to fire me for every little thing when I am trying to do my job.

If I need to change an out time, I'll do it later. Am I supposed to be afraid to make a decision?

Getting an airplane from point A to point B should not have to be a legal exercise and a "Got cha, your fired!" game. We have got enough to worry about.

Is this is how DAL is? Or, is this just a made up scenario?
Just to clarify the two crews that were in trouble at JFK. Were not talking a few minutes. One crew was told to expect a 90 minute delay for a deice slot. They blocked the aircraft out. Ramp tower corrected the time to their actual push time and one of the FO's filed a grievance with the union to get the time back. This lead to a investigation on how the time got changed and the gate video and autobahn tapes were pulled. It got ugly from there.
The second time it was a long haul over 12 hour flight. The dispatcher noticed the flight had been on the ground after push for over 2 hours. He called JFK ground to see why the flight was not airborne and try and expedite the flight to avoid the crew timing out. JFK ground informed them that the aircraft was still at the gate and had never pushed. No ones going to hassle you or fire you over 5 minutes or even 15 minutes. Had the copilot in the first crew not filed a grievance it would have never been a issue. The second incident happened within a week or so of the first when things were now highlighted.
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
I just read on the Deltanet 747 page about Steve Smith the 747 fleet captain stepping down. The 777 fleet captain Mike Doyle is going to take over Steve's duties as fleet captain. Now I am not knocking Mr. Doyle (I don't even know him) but how much 747 experience does he bring to the table? Seems like we would want someone who has a lot of 744 experience running the program not the 777 fleet captain......

I am not one to bring up the North verses South but in this case it sure seems like they are promoting/assigning from within.
Is it a temporary assignment?
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
I just read on the Deltanet 747 page about Steve Smith the 747 fleet captain stepping down. The 777 fleet captain Mike Doyle is going to take over Steve's duties as fleet captain. Now I am not knocking Mr. Doyle (I don't even know him) but how much 747 experience does he bring to the table? Seems like we would want someone who has a lot of 744 experience running the program not the 777 fleet captain......

I am not one to bring up the North verses South but in this case it sure seems like they are promoting/assigning from within.
Not that unusual for DAL. The Fleet Captains a few years ago were retired pilots. We went to active line qualified pilots again with the merger. Used to be the SE Regional Director.

Did it say who was taking over the 777? They may stick a F-NWA guy up there. It is a management position so I do not beleive the fence applies.
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:32 AM
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Is it a temporary assignment?
Doesn't this violate the 744 CA postions that are protected by the SLI
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:34 AM
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Like I said above it is a management position so I do not beleive it is part of the merger fences.
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:37 AM
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Doesn't this violate the 744 CA postions that are protected by the SLI
Ahh...not to worry my friend Moak will have the side LOA crafted up and signed by next week in exchange for an aisle bulkhead seat quaranteed for all domestic DH (if one is available at time of checkin)
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Like I said above it is a management position so I do not beleive it is part of the merger fences.
Management pilots are still in-good standing active ALPA members and will need to qualify on the aircraft to be the fleet captain, no?
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Old 06-06-2010, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Is it a temporary assignment?
No, it's not. He will be running the 777 and 744 program even though he has no 744 experience.

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Old 06-06-2010, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
I just read on the Deltanet 747 page about Steve Smith the 747 fleet captain stepping down. The 777 fleet captain Mike Doyle is going to take over Steve's duties as fleet captain. Now I am not knocking Mr. Doyle (I don't even know him) but how much 747 experience does he bring to the table? Seems like we would want someone who has a lot of 744 experience running the program not the 777 fleet captain......

I am not one to bring up the North verses South but in this case it sure seems like they are promoting/assigning from within.
It's just more of "Operation Visine". Getting the red out.

The larger question is why Steve and now Greg are retiring early? They loved their jobs and were absolutely great at doing them.

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Old 06-06-2010, 04:24 AM
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Also what's up with A SLI instructors on the category list that are well below the seniority that can hold it as a line pilot? I thought you still had to be able to hold the position in order to be an SLI in a category?
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