Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-04-2010, 04:12 PM
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How is our OUT time registered for the gate agents btw? On our ACARS or can they pick up the phone and call and say "door's closed" and thus be off liability. I mean nobody ever asks "why were you late?" to me, but it'd be interesting to tell them "oh, because the FA's are lost in the back because they claim they never fly the 88 and therefore it took 5 minutes before they closed the door and said we're ready to push..."
See, unaccounted for variables.
See, unaccounted for variables.
No I am not kidding.
Also, we are trying to automate the airline not go the other way. It is simple to show an out for pay with the door, and a out for block with the beacon. It just requires a software and wiring change. Probably too expensive when there is no ROI for the company on the work completed. That is why I state, "Work on trip rigs where the two hrs a month you gain by gaming the system would never be a variable."
06-04-2010, 04:18 PM
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The rule like many things was a result of a few errors and as typical is a blanket response where are leveled ruling was warranted.
06-04-2010, 04:18 PM
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That delay would be registered as: "Flight Crew; "Failure to complete Checklist in a timely manner."
No I am not kidding.
Also, we are trying to automate the airline not go the other way. It is simple to show an out for pay with the door, and a out for block with the beacon. It just requires a software and wiring change. Probably too expensive when there is no ROI for the company on the work completed. That is why I state, "Work on trip rigs where the two hrs a month you gain by gaming the system would never be a variable."
No I am not kidding.
Also, we are trying to automate the airline not go the other way. It is simple to show an out for pay with the door, and a out for block with the beacon. It just requires a software and wiring change. Probably too expensive when there is no ROI for the company on the work completed. That is why I state, "Work on trip rigs where the two hrs a month you gain by gaming the system would never be a variable."
06-04-2010, 04:22 PM
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06-04-2010, 04:23 PM
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They are. But the "Out" on the F-NWA jets is door closed and brake released.
My point was that to help with the new three hr rule they need to be de-coupled, not just changed to the door. All that does is increase overall block time.
My point was that to help with the new three hr rule they need to be de-coupled, not just changed to the door. All that does is increase overall block time.
06-04-2010, 04:23 PM
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DAL88;
Love the Maytag Repair Man. Kind of emulates the reserve live of a DC9A
Love the Maytag Repair Man. Kind of emulates the reserve live of a DC9A
06-04-2010, 04:30 PM
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One difference I have found between the 88 at "south" and the DC-9 at "north". On the 88, it is normal to release the brakes as soon as the chocks signal is received after coming to a stop at the gate. The brakes then usually remain released all the way through the pushback for the next flight. (Unless you are starting engines at the gate, in which they need to be set.) On the DC-9, we release the brakes upon receipt of the chocks signal just the same. However, the Before Start Checklist requires the brakes to be set... and they are not usually released until ready to push.
06-04-2010, 04:31 PM
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06-04-2010, 04:33 PM
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Acl, as a moderator, can you force 80s avatar picture to be the naked david hasselhoff with wrinkly dog?
06-04-2010, 04:36 PM
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FtB;
I cannot in good conscience do that! (For the good of the APC community of course)
DAL88;
On the 767/757 we set the parking brake in the before start checklist, and then the ramp lead will get on and we will confirm the brake is set and they are cleared for chock removal. We release for a suck chock or to push.
I cannot in good conscience do that! (For the good of the APC community of course)
DAL88;
On the 767/757 we set the parking brake in the before start checklist, and then the ramp lead will get on and we will confirm the brake is set and they are cleared for chock removal. We release for a suck chock or to push.
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