Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-31-2010, 08:18 AM
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C. Employee's period of military service cannot exceed five years [Appendix B].
1. Five year limit on military service is cumulative.
2. The five-year clock restarts when employee changes civilian employers.
3. Some types of service (e.g., periodic/special Reserve/NG training, service
in war or national emergency, service beyond five years in first term of
service) do not count toward the five year calculation.
The Asst Secretary of the Air Force declared a significant amount of military service exempt from the 5 year USERRA limitation. The initial memo came out 7 December 2001 and then further clarified 19 September 2005. In addition, Delta can honor Military Leave for as long wants. Here is an excerpt from the 2005 memo:
When an ARC member is ordered to active duty under section 12301(d) of title 10 on or after September 14, 2001, in direct or indirect support of missions and operations associated with the National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks, declared by Presidential Proclamation 7463, dated September 14, 2001. Affected members are to have the following statement included in their orders: “The period of service under these orders is exempt from the five-year limit as provided in 38 U.S.C. 4312(c)(4)(B).” if circumstances prevent placing this authority on the activation orders, the authority shall be included in a separation document and retained in the service member’s personnel file.
I inquired with NWA central admin, and they confirmed said time will not count towards the 5 year limit. I would think DAL will follow suit as they seem quite supportive of the military. I agree though, those who abuse this (selectively dropping mil leave to maximize schedule/pay) should be held accountable.
1. Five year limit on military service is cumulative.
2. The five-year clock restarts when employee changes civilian employers.
3. Some types of service (e.g., periodic/special Reserve/NG training, service
in war or national emergency, service beyond five years in first term of
service) do not count toward the five year calculation.
The Asst Secretary of the Air Force declared a significant amount of military service exempt from the 5 year USERRA limitation. The initial memo came out 7 December 2001 and then further clarified 19 September 2005. In addition, Delta can honor Military Leave for as long wants. Here is an excerpt from the 2005 memo:
When an ARC member is ordered to active duty under section 12301(d) of title 10 on or after September 14, 2001, in direct or indirect support of missions and operations associated with the National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks, declared by Presidential Proclamation 7463, dated September 14, 2001. Affected members are to have the following statement included in their orders: “The period of service under these orders is exempt from the five-year limit as provided in 38 U.S.C. 4312(c)(4)(B).” if circumstances prevent placing this authority on the activation orders, the authority shall be included in a separation document and retained in the service member’s personnel file.
I inquired with NWA central admin, and they confirmed said time will not count towards the 5 year limit. I would think DAL will follow suit as they seem quite supportive of the military. I agree though, those who abuse this (selectively dropping mil leave to maximize schedule/pay) should be held accountable.
05-31-2010, 08:23 AM
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...I do however understand the issue of a pilot who has elected to work for someone else while waiting for Delta to survive and then comes back to Delta 10 years later with a full retirement, slides right into a Captains seat and gets all his Delta retirement paid back! If I were junior that might give me some pause if I stuck out the bankruptcy and spent the last 10 years generating revenue to keep the company alive only to lose a bunch of numbers when these guys come back.
This guy's coming back :
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05-31-2010, 08:50 AM
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05-31-2010, 08:57 AM
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Ally was nice too. Too bad she didn't stay. 
05-31-2010, 09:05 AM
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Um, the women of NWA crew scheduling. I think we have enough names for a calendar.
yall sound like 80 flirting your way to better trips!
yall sound like 80 flirting your way to better trips!
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05-31-2010, 09:37 AM
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May 28, 2010
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--US Airways Group Inc. (LLC) Chief Executive Doug Parker criticized the Obama administration and congressional Democrats Tuesday for their approach to aviation policy, saying "the biggest threat to our viability is government intervention."
Parker, using harsh language during a speech at an aviation luncheon here, said some members of the administration and Congress are "hell-bent" on instituting policies that he said would hamper the industry's recovery. He cited legislation passed by the House that he said could lead to billions of dollars in additional fees annually for airlines, would curb global airline alliances and shift costs of air traffic-control system upgrades to the industry.
He also criticized a ruling by U.S. regulators this month requiring Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) and US Airways to divest some takeoff landing slots in New York and Washington as a pre-condition for a larger slot swap in the two cities. He called the decision "stunning," and reiterated plans to appeal it in federal court.
"It's a disturbing state of affairs," Parker said, adding that the ruling on the slot swap in particular "doesn't bode well" for the industry's future dealings with the Obama administration.
Parker, who also is chairman of US Airways, said the policies out of Washington could threaten the industry's recovery.
The industry remains "fragile," he said, with highly leveraged balance sheets and little ability to borrow, but added that he remains "bullish" on the industry's future. Moves in recent years to consolidate, cut costs and improve efficiency appear to be working, he added.
Parker also restated his support for the planned merger of Continental Airlines Inc. (CAL) and UAL Corp.'s (UAUA) United Airlines Inc., saying the deal would improve efficiency in the industry.
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--US Airways Group Inc. (LLC) Chief Executive Doug Parker criticized the Obama administration and congressional Democrats Tuesday for their approach to aviation policy, saying "the biggest threat to our viability is government intervention."
Parker, using harsh language during a speech at an aviation luncheon here, said some members of the administration and Congress are "hell-bent" on instituting policies that he said would hamper the industry's recovery. He cited legislation passed by the House that he said could lead to billions of dollars in additional fees annually for airlines, would curb global airline alliances and shift costs of air traffic-control system upgrades to the industry.
He also criticized a ruling by U.S. regulators this month requiring Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) and US Airways to divest some takeoff landing slots in New York and Washington as a pre-condition for a larger slot swap in the two cities. He called the decision "stunning," and reiterated plans to appeal it in federal court.
"It's a disturbing state of affairs," Parker said, adding that the ruling on the slot swap in particular "doesn't bode well" for the industry's future dealings with the Obama administration.
Parker, who also is chairman of US Airways, said the policies out of Washington could threaten the industry's recovery.
The industry remains "fragile," he said, with highly leveraged balance sheets and little ability to borrow, but added that he remains "bullish" on the industry's future. Moves in recent years to consolidate, cut costs and improve efficiency appear to be working, he added.
Parker also restated his support for the planned merger of Continental Airlines Inc. (CAL) and UAL Corp.'s (UAUA) United Airlines Inc., saying the deal would improve efficiency in the industry.
05-31-2010, 10:19 AM
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I dealt with Diana for years. She was great! I had stay at home days or in base days, lots of early releases and go ahead and get out of here's. In return I always told her if you're ever in a jam give me call, if I can help I will. Well the couple of times she did, I was able to get there and help her out and she'd remember it. Never anything on the sneak but she knew what she had to work with and if coverage was good she took care of me. Always asked how the wife and kiddies were. Sent her flowers the day she retired. For me she was a big help when I was on reserve.
05-31-2010, 10:30 AM
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Been awful quiet down in Mecca lately, what's going on?
05-31-2010, 10:47 AM
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What cities do we need to add the Nrt hub to make it more viable? Kuala Lumpur -Perth-Macau-Jakarta--ETC
05-31-2010, 11:13 AM
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The last thing I heard was that the fleet common CD's would work on a Mac but the aircraft systems CD's would not. I believe they are supposed to be working on new systems CD's that will run on a Mac. I recently took the plunge from PC to Mac (MacBook Pro 13") and couldn't be happier.
Hey, I see you are on the DC-9 in MEM. Maybe we'll fly together one of these days!
Hey, I see you are on the DC-9 in MEM. Maybe we'll fly together one of these days!
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