Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-31-2010, 03:38 AM
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Speaking of MLOA… the contract talks about the standard five year USERRA limit and uses the word "cumulative". Does that mean the company could go back and add together all your chunks of mil leave and that the total cannot go over five years? Specifically, what about a year of intermittent orders followed by a five year block. Does that exceed the limit? What about UTAs? Thanks!
Its your total of mil leave. There is a exception for service in a combat zone. You would have to check on the definition of that.
There is some talk the company is going to take a hard line on this. Sadly abuse of mil leave by a few may impact everyone as sick leave did.
I know several people who need two or three more years to get the full military retirement and medical and then plan to come back to Delta. They will have been out 8 to 10 years total. I think we should let them back since they may have prevented others from being furloughed.
I do however understand the issue of a pilot who has elected to work for someone else while waiting for Delta to survive and then comes back to Delta 10 years later with a full retirement, slides right into a Captains seat and gets all his Delta retirement paid back! If I were junior that might give me some pause if I stuck out the bankruptcy and spent the last 10 years generating revenue to keep the company alive only to lose a bunch of numbers when these guys come back.
05-31-2010, 03:45 AM
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On a different note....I'm on the MD88 and am moving to the MD88/90 in CVG in a few days. Is the 90 that much different from the 88 on the line? I'm worried because I dont think the CD (Which I finished about a month ago) is that good.
05-31-2010, 03:52 AM
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Its your total of mil leave. There is a exception for service in a combat zone. You would have to check on the definition of that.
There is some talk the company is going to take a hard line on this. Sadly abuse of mil leave by a few may impact everyone as sick leave did.
I know several people who need two or three more years to get the full military retirement and medical and then plan to come back to Delta. They will have been out 8 to 10 years total. I think we should let them back since they may have prevented others from being furloughed.
I do however understand the issue of a pilot who has elected to work for someone else while waiting for Delta to survive and then comes back to Delta 10 years later with a full retirement, slides right into a Captains seat and gets all his Delta retirement paid back! If I were junior that might give me some pause if I stuck out the bankruptcy and spent the last 10 years generating revenue to keep the company alive only to lose a bunch of numbers when these guys come back.
There is some talk the company is going to take a hard line on this. Sadly abuse of mil leave by a few may impact everyone as sick leave did.
I know several people who need two or three more years to get the full military retirement and medical and then plan to come back to Delta. They will have been out 8 to 10 years total. I think we should let them back since they may have prevented others from being furloughed.
I do however understand the issue of a pilot who has elected to work for someone else while waiting for Delta to survive and then comes back to Delta 10 years later with a full retirement, slides right into a Captains seat and gets all his Delta retirement paid back! If I were junior that might give me some pause if I stuck out the bankruptcy and spent the last 10 years generating revenue to keep the company alive only to lose a bunch of numbers when these guys come back.
I also don't think that serving one's country, especially in time of war, is "working for someone else" like going to UPS or SWA would be. I say let them back and let them exceed the limit to get that retirement.
05-31-2010, 03:58 AM
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Just got a Yellow slip to AMS! 82 hours this month on reserve. Momma bought a new pair of shoes!
05-31-2010, 04:06 AM
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05-31-2010, 04:20 AM
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05-31-2010, 04:29 AM
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There is a "MD90 Gouge Sheet" that you will find in the lounge in CVG. It is good info and summarizes most of the info. Some specifics on first walking up to the cockpit include: different min quantities for oil & hydraulics; some differences in preflight of cockpit, ie, TRP; with both packs on cockpit is relatively quiet - inst cooling fan runs when one pack is off; during start the EGT will rise before you see FF and start limits are different- all automatic; when you turn packs back on you will think you shut down something because the cooling fan will quit; on T/O pwr settings are about 10% less than 88; need to carry pwr longer on landing. Just my 2 cents worth. Have fun.
05-31-2010, 04:43 AM
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I dealt with Diana for years. She was great! I had stay at home days or in base days, lots of early releases and go ahead and get out of here's. In return I always told her if you're ever in a jam give me call, if I can help I will. Well the couple of times she did, I was able to get there and help her out and she'd remember it. Never anything on the sneak but she knew what she had to work with and if coverage was good she took care of me. Always asked how the wife and kiddies were. Sent her flowers the day she retired. For me she was a big help when I was on reserve.
05-31-2010, 05:01 AM
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I returned in January from a combination of mil leave and two furloughs. Total time out just under 7 years. I was very close to the cumulative military leave limit, even with a combat zone waiver for part of my time. I had quite a bit of mil leave on my records at NWA before I went out on long term mil as well. I had all my documentation lined up and was ready for questions, but never got any. The key, in my opinion, was maintaining contact with the company and letting them know each step along the way when my orders changed for whatever reason. I also made sure I kept a copy of all e-mails regarding my mil leave status.
05-31-2010, 06:09 AM
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I dealt with Diana for years. She was great! I had stay at home days or in base days, lots of early releases and go ahead and get out of here's. In return I always told her if you're ever in a jam give me call, if I can help I will. Well the couple of times she did, I was able to get there and help her out and she'd remember it. Never anything on the sneak but she knew what she had to work with and if coverage was good she took care of me. Always asked how the wife and kiddies were. Sent her flowers the day she retired. For me she was a big help when I was on reserve.
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