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Old 05-29-2010, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy1
We went there last fall and some friends used buddy passes there and back....sort of. All of us got to JNB just fine, in fact my family rode in Business Class both ways...sort of. Our friends made it there OK, but they had to buy last minute tickets to get home. Their flights left with 20-30 seats open while Delta chose freight over non-revs.
Our flight home had 40-45 seats open, but they only put 6 non-revs on. They gave us a seat in coach even with seats available in Business Class. Just before door closing, an agent came to me and said we could move up after takeoff but not before due to CG issues.
If I had to do it all over again, I would take my family on passes, but NO WAY would I take "buddies" over again. At least we can jump on KLM or someone else, the "buddies" don't have that luxury.
I priced a ticket a couple of months ahead and I think it was $1500 or so from MSP-ATL-JNB. Our friends bought a one-way walk-up ticket for $1200 and they had to use some miles for that rate.
Sorry, forgot to tell you thanks for the info. Everything goes out the window when you're trying to determine the viability of non-reving on a particular route when you can predict freight.
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Old 05-29-2010, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Yeah I noticed that too. On that day that I finished a trip I noticed that I was showing as available - weird and also confusing if you were below me on the list, and trying to figure out if you were next up.
I guess to really play it safe you should look up the schedule of the guys above you on the list to confirm exactly what they have going on.

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We shouldn't have to "look up the other guy's schedule." We had the technology for an accurate display of where you sit before and it should be available now. Yesterday's technology tomorrow.
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Old 05-29-2010, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Hey guys,

I thumbed through the contract several times, but couldn't find the table that shows are advance pay based on YOS. Can somebody point me in the right direction?

Thanks.
Hey. I've looked all over the contract and don't think it's in there. I've only seen it in a memo from 11-16-09 about Transitioning to Delta Payroll.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jabwmu
Hey. I've looked all over the contract and don't think it's in there. I've only seen it in a memo from 11-16-09 about Transitioning to Delta Payroll.
Pages 3-3 thru 3-12 of the contract. If you are looking for something beyond 12 YOS, or 2012, forget it. It doesn't exist. 12 YOS in 2012 is the top payrate at the company right now.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:46 AM
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A note of thanks to those who helped me parse the non-rev options to and from Germany. I wound up flying to FRA and back through STR, with no problems other than one particularly rude cat wrangler.

So far this month, L&G has helped me make to two important family functions. Thanks for being such a great community!
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jabwmu
Hey. I've looked all over the contract and don't think it's in there. I've only seen it in a memo from 11-16-09 about Transitioning to Delta Payroll.
Well I'll look there. Thanks for the help.

Originally Posted by JobHopper
Pages 3-3 thru 3-12 of the contract. If you are looking for something beyond 12 YOS, or 2012, forget it. It doesn't exist. 12 YOS in 2012 is the top payrate at the company right now.

No, we aren't talking about payrates for each airplane. We Delta pilots receive an 'advance paycheck' on the 31st of each month. The amount we receive is based on YOS. Which airplane we fly doesn't matter, it's the same gross amount based on YOS. For instance, I think a guy with less then 2 YOS gets a gross amount of $1300, a guys with 2+ YOS $1350, and so forth. I don't think that table is in the contract.

Thanks for your input though.
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
Pages 3-3 thru 3-12 of the contract. If you are looking for something beyond 12 YOS, or 2012, forget it. It doesn't exist. 12 YOS in 2012 is the top payrate at the company right now.

I think he is looking for the "Advance paycheck" amounts which are not in the contract but instead are company policy.

I don't know where to find it, but believe that the info was put out in a TWG notepad.
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:08 AM
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Johnso, that is determined by payroll. I have seen it somewhere. When I get the time I will dig for it. If I recall after three yos your advance goes up.
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Johnso, that is determined by payroll. I have seen it somewhere. When I get the time I will dig for it. If I recall after three yos your advance goes up.

I'll search around on deltanet. Maybe it's on there somewhere.

Thanks
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:13 AM
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11 years is 2800.00
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