Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-26-2010, 08:38 AM
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What's an airport so small doing with carriers so big? The St. Joe Co., the real estate developer that donated 4,000 acres for the airport, has offered to cover Southwest's operating losses for three years. Financial support, usually from smaller regional airports, has helped lure airlines in the past to "test-drive" the market. Could Northwest Florida's new airport be a victim to the Southwest Effect? Southwest will fly eight round-trip flights to Baltimore, Orlando, Houston-Hobby, and Nashville from Northwest Florida International.
05-26-2010, 08:41 AM
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RTFC = download CA 09-12.
"But FTB, how do I download 09-12?"
"Behold it is I."
"Yes. Great. It is you. But how do I download 09-12?"
"deltapilots.org, library, MEC, committees, contract awareness committee, scroll down to CA Bulletin 09-12 "Know Your Contract Complilation."
"Great, thanks, hey, where are the cheerleader pics?"
"You have me confused for someone else, ask Beer."
"But FTB, how do I download 09-12?"
"Behold it is I."
"Yes. Great. It is you. But how do I download 09-12?"
"deltapilots.org, library, MEC, committees, contract awareness committee, scroll down to CA Bulletin 09-12 "Know Your Contract Complilation."
"Great, thanks, hey, where are the cheerleader pics?"
"You have me confused for someone else, ask Beer."
05-26-2010, 09:14 AM
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Well, for starters I don't fly the 9, so mayb that's got me down a bit.
........Don't think of me as angry because I say "RTFC". Picture me, calm and focused, in the pose of the Lotus, repeatedly chanting "RTFC" as I channel my energy towards more knowledge, on the path to more money.
Hmmmmmm RTFC...
Hmmmmmm RTFC...
........Don't think of me as angry because I say "RTFC". Picture me, calm and focused, in the pose of the Lotus, repeatedly chanting "RTFC" as I channel my energy towards more knowledge, on the path to more money.
Hmmmmmm RTFC...
Hmmmmmm RTFC...
Come on ova and fly the -9! Wait. Unless you are senior to me.
Ok. I will picture a calm, zen-like, sink chanting RTFC.
05-26-2010, 09:15 AM
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single source: CA 09-12
source: Know Your Contract, Section 23
Rotation Changes and Removal (23 G.)
The Company may remove a pilot from a rotation or portion thereof and he may be eligible for a guarantee under other provisions of the PWA (e.g., Section 4 E., F., H. etc.). A reserve pilot who is removed from a rotation(s) will not be eligible for a rotation guarantee under Section 4 F., and will remain on-call as scheduled.
Depending upon the circumstances of the removal, the pilot may be subject to reroute or assigned recovery flying. (See also: Sections 23 K. and L. and TWG Notepad 09-13)
source: Transition Working Group Notepad 09-13
Regular First Officers Removed for OE
If a regular First Officer is removed from his entire rotation for another pilot’s OE, he will be subject to recovery flying under Section 23 G.5.a.
1. The Company must attempt to notify him of his recovery flying at least 12 hours prior to his original report. If he has not been assigned recovery flying by that time, he has no further recovery obligation.
2. He can be assigned a single rotation that reports on any day of the original rotation butNET his original report, and releases NLT four hours after his original release or the
same calendar day, whichever is later.
a. If the assignment to recovery flying is being made within 24 hours of his original report and the recovery flying reports on the same day as the originally scheduled rotation, he will only be assigned recovery flying under Section 23 N.3. (after white slips).
b. If the assignment to recovery flying is being made more than 24 hours prior to his original report, or the recovery flying reports after A day of the original rotation, he will be assigned recovery flying prior to any assignment made under Section 23 N.1.
3. If he is removed from all or part of his recovery rotation, he cannot be assigned additional recovery flying.
4. If he has not acknowledged his recovery flying three hours prior to his original report, the recovery flying may be removed, and he will be subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K.1. (Refer to “Regular Pilots Removed for IROPS” above). In this case the pilot is required to be promptly available at his base at the originally scheduled report time. He may be assigned recovery flying scheduled to release NLT four hours after his original release or the same calendar day, whichever is later (domestic). An international category pilot may be assigned recovery flying scheduled to release NLT 30 hours after his original release, provided the last duty period of the recovery flying contains an ocean crossing.
Example 1:
A First Officer is scheduled for a rotation reporting on Wednesday at 1600 and releasing on Friday at 1700. The Company removes him from the rotation for another pilot’s OE, and he acknowledges his assigned recovery flying no later than 1300 on Wednesday.
Results: 1. The Company may assign him a single recovery rotation no later than 0400 on Wednesday.
2. Recovery flying may report no earlier than 1600 on Wednesday and must be scheduled to release no later than 2359 on Friday.
3. After 1600 on Tuesday, the Company may assign him recovery flying reporting on Wednesday only under Section 23 N.3. (after white slips).
4. The Company may assign him to recovery flying reporting on Thursday or Friday prior to any assignment made under Section 23 N.1.
5. If no recovery flying is assigned by 0400 on Wednesday, he has no further recovery obligation.
Example 2:
A First Officer is scheduled for a rotation reporting on Wednesday at 2100 and releasing on Friday at 2100. The Company removes him from the rotation for another pilot’s OE, and attempts to notify him of his assignment to recovery flying prior to 0900 on Wednesday. The pilot does not acknowledge the assigned recovery flying prior to 1800 on Wednesday.Results:
1. The pilot is subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K.
2. If he has acknowledged his removal from his original rotation, he must be promptly available for contact by Crew Scheduling from 2100 on Wednesday until the earlier of:
a. 0300 on Thursday,
b. His assignment to recovery flying, or
c. His release by Crew Scheduling from recovery obligations.
3. If he has not acknowledged his removal from his original rotation, he must report at his originally scheduled report and be immediately available for contact by Crew Scheduling until the earlier of:
a. 0300 on Thursday,
b. his assignment to recovery flying, or
c. his release by Crew Scheduling from recovery obligations.
4. His recovery flying may be scheduled to release no later than 0100 on Saturday (0300 on Sunday if the last duty period of the recovery flying is a transoceanic duty period).
c. His release by Crew Scheduling from recovery obligations.
3. If he has not acknowledged his removal from his original rotation, he must report at his originally scheduled report and be immediately available for contact by Crew Scheduling until the earlier of:
a. 0300 on Thursday,
b. his assignment to recovery flying, or
c. his release by Crew Scheduling from recovery obligations.
4. His recovery flying may be scheduled to release no later than 0100 on Saturday (0300 on Sunday if the last duty period of the recovery flying is a transoceanic duty period).
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05-26-2010, 09:29 AM
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Company-Removal Guarantee (4 E.)
[LEFT]After the line adjustment process, the Company may remove a regular pilot from hisrotation, or portion thereof, for its convenience. The pilot is pay protected in this case. There
are several situations listed that the phrase “convenience of the Company” does not include.
These are listed in Section 4 E. 1. a. through p.
Rotation Guarantee (4 F.)
There are a number of reasons that a pilot’s flown rotation might differ from the original
rotation on his line.
rotation on his line.
Section 4 F. describes the pay effects and the options available to the
Company when an unplanned event prevents a pilot from flying all or a portion of his
scheduled rotation. These events include reroute, irregular operations (IROPS) recovery,
OE removal for First Officers, and transition rotation recovery. Generally, a pilot will
Company when an unplanned event prevents a pilot from flying all or a portion of his
scheduled rotation. These events include reroute, irregular operations (IROPS) recovery,
OE removal for First Officers, and transition rotation recovery. Generally, a pilot will
receive the greater value of the rotation flown or the rotation as published on his line of time.
05-26-2010, 09:32 AM
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Where is this man?
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And, does anyone know about buddy passes to JNB (AFTER THE WORLD CUP) and wondering how it was getting in and out. May let some missioanry friends have passes, just don't want them to get stuck.
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And, does anyone know about buddy passes to JNB (AFTER THE WORLD CUP) and wondering how it was getting in and out. May let some missioanry friends have passes, just don't want them to get stuck.
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05-26-2010, 09:38 AM
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05-26-2010, 10:18 AM
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Agreed. Why does a carrier serving the Mobile/ Panama City/Pensacola/Ft.Walton areas for eons get crapped on, while SWA gets the royal treatment? The same thing is going on in CHS...the whole town is giddy over SWA service (again, a no-lose deal for them), while the carrier that's been there since about the time the runways were paved gets jack squat.
On another SWA note, look!, wow! SWA invented ordering pizza for passengers stuck on a plane!!! Who else but SWA could've thought that up?!
Southwest orders pizza for passengers on diverted flight
Fort Worth Star Telegram - May 24, 2010
By SHLACHTER & CO. On Tuesday, a Southwest Airlines flight was one of several diverted to the Pueblo, Colo., airport as storms battered Denver Airport...
HEY FORT WORTH STAR, we've had Captains doing that on full 767s, much larger than 737-700s, using their own credit cards. So kiss off.
05-26-2010, 10:21 AM
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The truth is, as much as I want to complain about people getting duped by the SWA, is that eventually the legacy carriers will have to fight back, in the PR world and of course in our product, on the grounds that we are, better.
On another SWA note, look!, wow! SWA invented ordering pizza for passengers stuck on a plane!!! Who else but SWA could've thought that up?!
Southwest orders pizza for passengers on diverted flight
Fort Worth Star Telegram - May 24, 2010
By SHLACHTER & CO. On Tuesday, a Southwest Airlines flight was one of several diverted to the Pueblo, Colo., airport as storms battered Denver Airport...
HEY FORT WORTH STAR, we've had Captains doing that on full 767s, much larger than 737-700s, using their own credit cards. So kiss off.
On another SWA note, look!, wow! SWA invented ordering pizza for passengers stuck on a plane!!! Who else but SWA could've thought that up?!
Southwest orders pizza for passengers on diverted flight
Fort Worth Star Telegram - May 24, 2010
By SHLACHTER & CO. On Tuesday, a Southwest Airlines flight was one of several diverted to the Pueblo, Colo., airport as storms battered Denver Airport...
HEY FORT WORTH STAR, we've had Captains doing that on full 767s, much larger than 737-700s, using their own credit cards. So kiss off.
What a bunch of morons. This has been going on for years at Coex too.
05-26-2010, 11:13 AM
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Anyone else notice that the flight time in type is missing from the rotations? What is up with that?
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