Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-24-2010, 12:35 PM
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Might want to check and make sure this is the case. I beleive he retired in good standing.
05-24-2010, 12:43 PM
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I am all for shutting them down as much as possible. I have never understood why we are not plugged in with both air and electric every single time. Someone in managment needs to address this from the ramp side, but it seems like they always come after the flight crews first.
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05-24-2010, 01:36 PM
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I agree. My sample size is small, I've been into DTW 4 times in the last month, but I've had significant ground ops issues every single time. The worst was yesterday. We could have easily had an on-time departure after arriving at our jet only 30 minutes prior to push but there was absolutely ZERO urgency on the part of ground guys to make it happen. Result: we took off 45 minutes late. Unacceptable.
And to make matters worse, as we're making PAs to the pax to explain that we're trying to get out on time, the guy dragging his feet the most was the baggage guy. Plus, he looked like he'd just woken up from a crack stupor. No semblance of a Delta uniform. A garish doo rag around his head, high top sneaks with the shoe laces untied and a wallet chain hanging down to the ground. I can only imagine what the pax on the right side of the jet were thinking.
Where is DTW management and what in the hell are they doing? I used to think our JFK ops were the worst. Not any more.
And to make matters worse, as we're making PAs to the pax to explain that we're trying to get out on time, the guy dragging his feet the most was the baggage guy. Plus, he looked like he'd just woken up from a crack stupor. No semblance of a Delta uniform. A garish doo rag around his head, high top sneaks with the shoe laces untied and a wallet chain hanging down to the ground. I can only imagine what the pax on the right side of the jet were thinking.
Where is DTW management and what in the hell are they doing? I used to think our JFK ops were the worst. Not any more.
05-24-2010, 02:03 PM
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I agree. My sample size is small, I've been into DTW 4 times in the last month, but I've had significant ground ops issues every single time. The worst was yesterday. We could have easily had an on-time departure after arriving at our jet only 30 minutes prior to push but there was absolutely ZERO urgency on the part of ground guys to make it happen. Result: we took off 45 minutes late. Unacceptable.
And to make matters worse, as we're making PAs to the pax to explain that we're trying to get out on time, the guy dragging his feet the most was the baggage guy. Plus, he looked like he'd just woken up from a crack stupor. No semblance of a Delta uniform. A garish doo rag around his head, high top sneaks with the shoe laces untied and a wallet chain hanging down to the ground. I can only imagine what the pax on the right side of the jet were thinking.
And to make matters worse, as we're making PAs to the pax to explain that we're trying to get out on time, the guy dragging his feet the most was the baggage guy. Plus, he looked like he'd just woken up from a crack stupor. No semblance of a Delta uniform. A garish doo rag around his head, high top sneaks with the shoe laces untied and a wallet chain hanging down to the ground. I can only imagine what the pax on the right side of the jet were thinking.
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05-24-2010, 03:32 PM
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Nu works on a WB. It's a whole different world on the Varsity side, especially when on a WB.
DTW ground ops can be terrible, and if they're actually on it the you'll often end up waiting for a gate agent. The other day I saw a ramper leaning on a container that said 'CAUTION FLAMMABLE JET A'. Do you know what he was doing while he was leaning on said container?
SMOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Add to that most guys won't even check to make sure the ground power is good, they just plug and run. TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!
DTW ground ops can be terrible, and if they're actually on it the you'll often end up waiting for a gate agent. The other day I saw a ramper leaning on a container that said 'CAUTION FLAMMABLE JET A'. Do you know what he was doing while he was leaning on said container?
SMOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Add to that most guys won't even check to make sure the ground power is good, they just plug and run. TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!
Quite honestly, I've never had the problems you guys seem to. Sure, I've waited my share for a park crew, but I have hardly EVER waited for a push crew.
Maybe it's my winning smile or fragrant body eminations (think lilac on a dewy morning or sometimes the smell of fresh cinnamon buns) that simply causes people to want to be part of my winning team...but don't hate the playa', hate the game...
Nu
05-24-2010, 04:13 PM
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On a layover in DTW and today I had to check my jepp plate to make sure we landed in DTW. We never stopped rolling from the runway to the gate. But just to be picky...took 5 minutes for ground power and never got air. Oh well..........
05-24-2010, 04:19 PM
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Nu,
I have always had decent experiences in DTW. If they do not hook up the air, I call, and it is there within five mins. Had an a/c in our gate that was dead, called up, had a new gate in a minute, and to add to that, the marshallers were there immediately.
I like DTW, great terminal and nice ppl. I just ask when I need something and that seems to work for me.
I have always had decent experiences in DTW. If they do not hook up the air, I call, and it is there within five mins. Had an a/c in our gate that was dead, called up, had a new gate in a minute, and to add to that, the marshallers were there immediately.
I like DTW, great terminal and nice ppl. I just ask when I need something and that seems to work for me.
05-24-2010, 04:28 PM
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It was one of those rare days when DTW was landing on the 27s (happens 3-4 times a year). Usually when this happens, despite whatever direction you come from, you get vectored 270 degrees around the north side of the airport to one of the 27 finals. It's usually good for at least 15-20 minutes.
Well, not this time...last flight of a 4 day. We were coming in from the SE. A slight vector put us on the 27L localizer. Metro tower gave us a "roll to the end approved". A slight right turn, and a chat with ramp control had us rolling gently to a stop right at A-5 with just a tap of the brakes, where the ground crew was waiting, power plug in hand. It was hardly a minute after we had touched down.
As I said, once in a career. Of course, I still had seven and a half hours to wait for my commute home, but hey, a win is a win.
Nu
05-24-2010, 04:35 PM
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Did you notice the whole in the wall there at the gate, that was me.
The ramper parked us on the 90 line and not the 88, the Captain thought it was wrong but you kind of have to trust the ramper. Sure enough it was wrong so the other rampers were mad at the marshaller. They tried to hook up a tug but ended up putting the tug through the wall. It could always be worse, the ramper might have been really signaling to another ramper where the bathroom was and we could've ended up like this CAL 80 in EWR a few years back:
05-24-2010, 04:45 PM
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I had a "once in a career" in DTW...
It was one of those rare days when DTW was landing on the 27s (happens 3-4 times a year). Usually when this happens, despite whatever direction you come from, you get vectored 270 degrees around the north side of the airport to one of the 27 finals. It's usually good for at least 15-20 minutes.
Well, not this time...last flight of a 4 day. We were coming in from the SE. A slight vector put us on the 27L localizer. Metro tower gave us a "roll to the end approved". A slight right turn, and a chat with ramp control had us rolling gently to a stop right at A-5 with just a tap of the brakes, where the ground crew was waiting, power plug in hand. It was hardly a minute after we had touched down.
As I said, once in a career. Of course, I still had seven and a half hours to wait for my commute home, but hey, a win is a win.
Nu
It was one of those rare days when DTW was landing on the 27s (happens 3-4 times a year). Usually when this happens, despite whatever direction you come from, you get vectored 270 degrees around the north side of the airport to one of the 27 finals. It's usually good for at least 15-20 minutes.
Well, not this time...last flight of a 4 day. We were coming in from the SE. A slight vector put us on the 27L localizer. Metro tower gave us a "roll to the end approved". A slight right turn, and a chat with ramp control had us rolling gently to a stop right at A-5 with just a tap of the brakes, where the ground crew was waiting, power plug in hand. It was hardly a minute after we had touched down.
As I said, once in a career. Of course, I still had seven and a half hours to wait for my commute home, but hey, a win is a win.
Nu
This happens to newK every leg, maybe its time to rethink the lilacs.
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