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Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: Stuck in the north!
Posts: 75
Can someone answer this question,
I am on the ER in NYC, I sit at 68%. On the AE if I bid
DTW 777
DTW 330
NYC 7ER 70%
SEA 7ER 80%
Will it stop at NYC 7ER 70% if I can hold it?
If I can't hold a line in NYC then I would like to go to SEA 7ER. Since there is no AE for the ER in NYC, (but I am already there) will it honor my request to stay there at 70%.
Thanks for the help.
I am on the ER in NYC, I sit at 68%. On the AE if I bid
DTW 777
DTW 330
NYC 7ER 70%
SEA 7ER 80%
Will it stop at NYC 7ER 70% if I can hold it?
If I can't hold a line in NYC then I would like to go to SEA 7ER. Since there is no AE for the ER in NYC, (but I am already there) will it honor my request to stay there at 70%.
Thanks for the help.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 5-9 block, kill removing
Posts: 385
Is the 73 category in NYC going more senior? or opening up based on something else? I would think 70% would be safe
Specifically the 73 in NY. 70% hold up there? The 9 guys that are being displaced, will they all be off the bottom or are some of you more senior guys going to vd to better jets?
Crazy and All:
Contact the J/S Committee peeps and have them or you post the response. IF it is supposed to be 1.) Pilots then 2.) F/As, 'guidance' needs to be re-applied and enforced. (A copy of this needs/should be carried by ALL pilots...It was negotiated by/for us. Others are just hangers-on, IMMHO.)
Good Luck to Us!
Contact the J/S Committee peeps and have them or you post the response. IF it is supposed to be 1.) Pilots then 2.) F/As, 'guidance' needs to be re-applied and enforced. (A copy of this needs/should be carried by ALL pilots...It was negotiated by/for us. Others are just hangers-on, IMMHO.)
Good Luck to Us!
Go line holder if you are already commuting there. The line will more than make up the $5 or so hourly difference of reserve ER. And, the ER isn't going anywhere soon, you will be able to get back when it is more advantageous seniority wise. My dos centavos. Good luck!
Burn Notice
Satch, I'll show you one way to figure out where things sit on a given category. Its slightly laborious but it works.
Go to Crew Resources and Scheduling > May Bid Awards > Roster Reports.
Pick the first guy, say we're looking at ATL 88 B.
Now the second line of his reasons report you'll see how many are in the category, how many were eligible to bid, how many lines were given out both regular and reserve.
Here's what it says:
Category:1/458 Eligible:1/452 Regular:1/357 Reserve:0(above)/95
Okay, so 458 pilots in the category, 452 eligible to bid, 357 lines and 95 reserve lines.
So if 0 pilots bid down to reserve that could've held a line then #357 out of 452 eligible would've been last. So hit CTRL+F and type in 357/452.
You'll see the senority number of the person who bid it. In this case I'm going to cross reference it with the senority list and turns out that pilot was hired in the 10/15/07 class.
Now, if you look at that person you'll see this:
Category:363/458 Eligible:357/452 Regular:340(above)/357 Reserve:17/95
Do the math and that pilot is 78.9% in category.
What this says is 17 bid reserve above said pilot. So I'm curious, I want to know the last pilot to hold a line, i.e. #357/357. And this is where things backfire. It went to a pilot who had double vacation who was 14-15 from the bottom. So put in 356/357, and this is legit and this pilot was hired in the 12/03/07 class. Now you can figure out where you sit on holding a line. Here are the numbers on the last "real" line holder and as you see 23 people bid down to reserve.
Category:385/458 Eligible:379/452 Regular:356/357 Reserve:23(above)/95
Do the math and that is pilot is 85%.
My guess is, you'd come real close in May, you probably would've held a line in September.
Now pick the next category and repeat. Or do it the old fashion way and look at the Wide Reports via your seniority number and compare. Start with NYC 73N, try ATL 88 B and move up from the bottom and see how far you are from holding a commutable schedule. If the summer rumors hold true and we're greensliping like candy, which I find hard to believe right now given I can go a week of reserve without coming close to being called or given SC, then bet on only trading into same day trips and not completely exchanging weekends for weekdays.
I did this back in January for the last AE and did every stinking last category. I'll post the results below in a moment.
Go to Crew Resources and Scheduling > May Bid Awards > Roster Reports.
Pick the first guy, say we're looking at ATL 88 B.
Now the second line of his reasons report you'll see how many are in the category, how many were eligible to bid, how many lines were given out both regular and reserve.
Here's what it says:
Category:1/458 Eligible:1/452 Regular:1/357 Reserve:0(above)/95
Okay, so 458 pilots in the category, 452 eligible to bid, 357 lines and 95 reserve lines.
So if 0 pilots bid down to reserve that could've held a line then #357 out of 452 eligible would've been last. So hit CTRL+F and type in 357/452.
You'll see the senority number of the person who bid it. In this case I'm going to cross reference it with the senority list and turns out that pilot was hired in the 10/15/07 class.
Now, if you look at that person you'll see this:
Category:363/458 Eligible:357/452 Regular:340(above)/357 Reserve:17/95
Do the math and that pilot is 78.9% in category.
What this says is 17 bid reserve above said pilot. So I'm curious, I want to know the last pilot to hold a line, i.e. #357/357. And this is where things backfire. It went to a pilot who had double vacation who was 14-15 from the bottom. So put in 356/357, and this is legit and this pilot was hired in the 12/03/07 class. Now you can figure out where you sit on holding a line. Here are the numbers on the last "real" line holder and as you see 23 people bid down to reserve.
Category:385/458 Eligible:379/452 Regular:356/357 Reserve:23(above)/95
Do the math and that is pilot is 85%.
My guess is, you'd come real close in May, you probably would've held a line in September.
Now pick the next category and repeat. Or do it the old fashion way and look at the Wide Reports via your seniority number and compare. Start with NYC 73N, try ATL 88 B and move up from the bottom and see how far you are from holding a commutable schedule. If the summer rumors hold true and we're greensliping like candy, which I find hard to believe right now given I can go a week of reserve without coming close to being called or given SC, then bet on only trading into same day trips and not completely exchanging weekends for weekdays.
I did this back in January for the last AE and did every stinking last category. I'll post the results below in a moment.
Okay, January 2010 first, and remember this is regular lines vs reserve lines. Not necessarily what it takes to hold a line but what it would take to hold a line if nobody bid down to reserve:
For brevity and to not expose everything on the internet I took out the number of actual lines and reserve lines and totals.
For brevity and to not expose everything on the internet I took out the number of actual lines and reserve lines and totals.
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