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Old 05-12-2010, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
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I spoke with a fellow pilot who lives in ATL today. He is out on LTS, but the prognosis is excellent. He's still not able to put in a full day without getting fatigued, but is hopeful to return soon. He still likes to dabble in all things aviation, and hangs out with a friend who is doing a homebuilt during his after-hours, from time to time. This second gentleman is a pretty senior line maintenance A&P for ma' Delta. He has been tasked (the mechanic) with going over to Stockholm to observe 40---count 'em--40 MD-90s that are going through heavy C checks at Swiss air. The story I got was that barring any "significant" issues uncovered during said checks, those 40 were coming to us. $7 mil. a piece. Take this with a grain of salt, as w/ any rumor. However, my good friend who is out on sick leave is not a rumor monger in any degree or fashion. Even though this mech. is going over to observe, that does NOT make a sale. However....

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I don't think there is ANY single carrier operating that quantity of MD-90s. That number represents about 45% of the MD-90s still operating. Maybe he said 14
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Sure about that? I thought Stockholm was about 1000 miles north of Switzerland? Now if it was Scandanavian Airlines (SAS) that would be another thing.
Hi DAL4EVER,
The short answer is no. I'm not sure. Our conversation revolved around his cancer, treatments, recovery, and our common desire to honor the Lord in all that we do....whether flying for ma' Delta, or hanging out with friends and drinking coffee while they turn wrenches on a project homebuilt. Maybe it was SAS/Scandinavian Airlines. I thought he said Swiss Air, but it very well may have been SAS. My apologies if some of the facts (pertinent ones, like WHICH AIRLINE!!) were off in my earlier post. But I am certain he mentioned 40 aircraft, $7 mil. each, and 'C' checks that his mech. friend (yes, a DAL mechanic/employee) was tentatively scheduled to go over to observe. I just ad-lib'd the Stockholm. It's the only city I could think of, and I guess my geography is off. I need to get out more often. As a DC-9 guy, I can name a whole bunch of small towns between MEM and MCO, that euro gig....not so much. Again, my apologies if the first post is confusing. My only intent is to share the good news, that comes from what I consider to be a very reliable friend. Not only is he a first rate ma' Delta captain, but a former Marine fighter pilot, and as good a friend as I'd ever hope to have. Guess we'll have to see if any of this pans out.

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Old 05-12-2010, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
I don't think there is ANY single carrier operating that quantity of MD-90s. That number represents about 45% of the MD-90s still operating. Maybe he said 14
Hi Nosmo King,
I understand that is a significant percentage of the total of MD-90 A/C available. However, I am certain he did say 40. On the other hand, this IS third hand information. I guess we'll see.

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Old 05-12-2010, 08:19 PM
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MD-90s by # and operator

Saudi Arabian Airlines (29)
Delta Air Lines (16)
Japan Airlines (16)
China Southern (13)
Uni Air (11)
China Eastern (9)
Blue1 (5)
Hello Airlines (5)
Lion Air (5)

Now what we need is for ACL to go thru the list and tell us which ones we already have coming or are already in the US and we can get to the bottom of this mystery. Scooby Dooby Doo (shameless Boomerang plug)
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
MD-90s by # and operator

Saudi Arabian Airlines (29)
Delta Air Lines (16)
Japan Airlines (16)
China Southern (13)
Uni Air (11)
China Eastern (9)
Blue1 (5)
Hello Airlines (5)
Lion Air (5)
I'm told that 3 Hello and 4 China Eastern aircraft are already in the US being modded to the new Delta configuration. I believe they will enter service this fall.
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:33 PM
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Hi Scambo,
I looked on Wikipedia, and they reflect the numbers you quoted. Now I'm wondering where "40" came from. There were only 109 total airframes even made, and the Saudi's totaled 29 of those. And I understand that the Saudi A/C are somewhat of a hybrid, and may not be a good fit for DAL. At any rate, I stand by what I was told, and what I shared. But it's hard to understand where those 40 airframes mentioned are going to come from. Perhaps I should "lurk" more, and "post" less.

Regards,
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:37 PM
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Chuck;

My posting wasn't intended in any way as a poke in your eye. I like the rumor. I hope its true. From my memory, JAL 90s were in play, China Eeastern's were in play, Hello's are enroute. etc. Post away.

Like the man says "there's a little truth in everything."
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Hi Scambo,
I looked on Wikipedia, and they reflect the numbers you quoted. Now I'm wondering where "40" came from. There were only 109 total airframes even made, and the Saudi's totaled 29 of those. And I understand that the Saudi A/C are somewhat of a hybrid, and may not be a good fit for DAL. At any rate, I stand by what I was told, and what I shared. But it's hard to understand where those 40 airframes mentioned are going to come from. Perhaps I should "lurk" more, and "post" less.

Regards,
Chuck
I know the company wants more than 40 so I guess we'll see. You'd think that china eastern and hello would sell us the few others they have also since they now only have a couple left after we purchased the others. Unless of course there was stuff wrong with them causing us not to want them. Who knows. They're pretty dead set on getting as many as possible so I say more power to em!
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Chuck;
...From my memory, JAL 90s were in play, China Eeastern's were in play, Hello's are enroute...
3 Hello MD90s Delivered

I want to say 12 China Eastern coming
2 per month through June, the last one in July
The delivery schedule is hanging in the CVG crew lounge...

The holdup in joining the fleet is the STC for the in Seat IFE according to SD
Once the STC is in hand expect an accelerated schedule...

Latest one crossed the Pacific on May 1st:
FlightAware > China Eastern Airlines #599

Cheers
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Hi DAL4EVER,
The short answer is no. I'm not sure. Our conversation revolved around his cancer, treatments, recovery, and our common desire to honor the Lord in all that we do....whether flying for ma' Delta, or hanging out with friends and drinking coffee while they turn wrenches on a project homebuilt. Maybe it was SAS/Scandinavian Airlines. I thought he said Swiss Air, but it very well may have been SAS. My apologies if some of the facts (pertinent ones, like WHICH AIRLINE!!) were off in my earlier post. But I am certain he mentioned 40 aircraft, $7 mil. each, and 'C' checks that his mech. friend (yes, a DAL mechanic/employee) was tentatively scheduled to go over to observe. I just ad-lib'd the Stockholm. It's the only city I could think of, and I guess my geography is off. I need to get out more often. As a DC-9 guy, I can name a whole bunch of small towns between MEM and MCO, that euro gig....not so much. Again, my apologies if the first post is confusing. My only intent is to share the good news, that comes from what I consider to be a very reliable friend. Not only is he a first rate ma' Delta captain, but a former Marine fighter pilot, and as good a friend as I'd ever hope to have. Guess we'll have to see if any of this pans out.

Regards,
Chuck
Hey Chuck,

I hope and pray your bud makes a full recovery and comes back to the line soon. We can make all these predictions about our future, but it really doesn't mean anything if you don't have your health. Your post brings that point home to me tonight. Take care.
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