Cycle Pilot

What's really annoying is that Delta did provide this information. Didn't somebody post a link to all the letters that were submitted backing up this slot swap? 95% of the letters were supporting the transaction. What other dang evidence do they need?

forgot to bid

It's not the evidence that matters, it's the outcome.

And until SWA has 34 new slots out of LGA and DCA at a fraction of the real value, then all the evidence, law and precedents are not worth anything. The only issue the DOT expected complete capitulation out of these two beleaguered airlines and I bet they still expect us to give in
without going to court. Problem for the DOT is they are underestimating LCC and DALs ability to continue running on crutches.

The issue now will be that DAL/NWA, LCC, and CAL/UAL want slot ownership settled in court once and for all. No more auctioning of owned slots for any reason. It's a he'll of a fight that needs to be won for everyones sake but the airline who time and time again thought they could prosper without serving NYC and DCs real airports.

caddis

So it looks like the crew from 188 was fired and DALPA may not have been overly helpful to them.

Interesting thread was started on the ALPA board and then removed after someone who "talked" to the crew involved shed a bad light on ALPA.

Am I the only one growing concerned with ALPA as our union?

acl65pilot

Caddis;

Have you heard anything official? I haven't.

johnso29

He LIVES!!!


JK.

caddis

No I have not heard anything official, but that is part of the problem, we have heard nothing at all from the union.

One of the things I find concerning about the union is the lack of communication compared to what we on the north were used to. One example of a similar situation was the Airbus crew that landed at the AF base in SD versus Rapid City. The union came out with information after it happened as well as some, for lack of a better term, status updates. The did nothing that interfered with the investigation but they did do a good job keeping us informed.

My lack of communication complaints are not just in regards to this incident. I feel that the MEC does a poor job of getting information out to the masses. We just had LOA 22 approved yet what communication have we received? Why can't we get daily updates during the MEC meetings?

Honestly why should I have to come to APC to find out what is going on at my airline?

Now here is my disclaimer. I think the merger has been a good thing and we will be a better airline and stronger pilot group in the long run. SLI, phases 1-6, AWABs, bases moving, and all the other merger stuff was a pain in the @$$ but I it is behind us. So no I am not a bitter fNWA guy, I am DAL pilot concerned about our union

TenYearsGone

Where the "F" have you been? We missed you.

caddis

Me?

Hey Johnson you may soon like me even more...I am thinking of leaving the bus so you can move up a number!


ok I know you mean ACL, I was just trying to "feel the love"

sailingfun

Your statement that DALPA may not have been overly helpful to them could not be further from the truth. Can you give even a hint of what you based it on? Call and talk to your reps about the situation. You might form a different and educated opinion. DALPA or ALPA don't deal with these types of situation in public and especially in this case its not the place.

johnso29

TYG,

You get the call yet????