Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-11-2010, 07:56 AM
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Ya, but you don't ride between LGA and CVG "all the time." The flights are almost all RJ's and you have a ton of displaced Comair pilots and flight attendants commuting to NYC. I commute from the West Coast and I flew with a Captain who lives in Cincinnati. He had to leave the same time I did from California! It looks like they added some mainline flights for the Summer, though. That should help out.
05-11-2010, 08:12 AM
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Maybe. But you're actually suggesting we do something we're not approved to do (swap slots without meeting the terms of the approval). It's a little like refusing to go to the back of the bus, I guess. Forcing the issue in this manner is definitely a tactic. I don't think I've seen airlines use this approach (fly without approval first, sue later), at least not with the government. But I suppose it could be done.
05-11-2010, 08:22 AM
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05-11-2010, 08:24 AM
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No, especially CRJ-100/200's. Getting the jumpseat on those is next to impossible. You have a better chance of getting a seat on the wing.
05-11-2010, 08:30 AM
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Maybe. But you're actually suggesting we do something we're not approved to do (swap slots without meeting the terms of the approval). It's a little like refusing to go to the back of the bus, I guess. Forcing the issue in this manner is definitely a tactic. I don't think I've seen airlines use this approach (fly without approval first, sue later), at least not with the government. But I suppose it could be done.
05-11-2010, 08:37 AM
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Sink......exactly right.
Also, I'll add that your release and our old release are wayyyyy different and you don't know what you don't know. Once I saw yours and how little was on it, I understood why you wondered why we wanted 2. Our old one was like a "cliff notes" of the flight plan and a quick easy reference........also great scratch paper
I kept one just for $hits and grins and showed it to the RP we had coming home from CDG. He was blown away with it and also how "clean" and organized a World Flight flight plan was.
No worries, this time next year........we'll all be wondering what the big deal was
Ferd
Also, I'll add that your release and our old release are wayyyyy different and you don't know what you don't know. Once I saw yours and how little was on it, I understood why you wondered why we wanted 2. Our old one was like a "cliff notes" of the flight plan and a quick easy reference........also great scratch paper
I kept one just for $hits and grins and showed it to the RP we had coming home from CDG. He was blown away with it and also how "clean" and organized a World Flight flight plan was.
No worries, this time next year........we'll all be wondering what the big deal was
Ferd
BTW Ferd, one of the things I noticed after requesting a copy of the ICAO strip is that we now file TAS in the Pacific. fNW we used to file mach number. This is not apparent under AWABS/FPS because the actual ICAO filed text is not printed like it was on the Worldflight release.
05-11-2010, 08:46 AM
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The DOT approved the request, it just requires Delta and USAir to sell a percentage of the slots. I think he's saying that Delta is going to use the slots the DOT approved in the swap, and sue for the rest.
Hm - I read part of the DOT's response and you are correct. The wavier is contigent on Delta and USAir meeting the requirements. Regulations.gov
I guess Delta is going to announce the service, get everything lined up and see what happens. It's possible that they might ask for an injunction against the selling of the slots, while they sue. This way, they can use the slots. It takes time to get the flights in the system, get people to buy tickets, build the walkway between the old USAir terminal and the Delta terminal.
Hm - I read part of the DOT's response and you are correct. The wavier is contigent on Delta and USAir meeting the requirements. Regulations.gov
I guess Delta is going to announce the service, get everything lined up and see what happens. It's possible that they might ask for an injunction against the selling of the slots, while they sue. This way, they can use the slots. It takes time to get the flights in the system, get people to buy tickets, build the walkway between the old USAir terminal and the Delta terminal.
05-11-2010, 09:28 AM
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Excellent summary, I may have to put up a webpage with a replica of the old Worldflight release and Flight Plan to make things clearer. Now I have to see if I saved one from a transpac or a south of NRT trip.
BTW Ferd, one of the things I noticed after requesting a copy of the ICAO strip is that we now file TAS in the Pacific. fNW we used to file mach number. This is not apparent under AWABS/FPS because the actual ICAO filed text is not printed like it was on the Worldflight release.
BTW Ferd, one of the things I noticed after requesting a copy of the ICAO strip is that we now file TAS in the Pacific. fNW we used to file mach number. This is not apparent under AWABS/FPS because the actual ICAO filed text is not printed like it was on the Worldflight release.
I printed one off the LMS. It offers you one so you could compare it to the FPS 2.0 while you were going through Phase 6. I just printed the release and the Flight Plan, the NOTAMS, WX etc isn't that different. The bad news is the one on the LMS is for a domestic flight. But, the ICAO strip would be the same.
Interesting about TAS vs mach #.......another thing I didn't see/understand. I guess Cost Index corresponds to TAS somehow? Since we were so over block time coming home last week, they gave us a constant mach (.80) all the way home. Made life sooooooo much easier.
Ferd
05-11-2010, 09:38 AM
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Ah, well, that explains it. Here all this time, I've been reading people wanking about commuting and thinking, "What's the problem?"
05-11-2010, 09:49 AM
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Hey. I can't find it in the right place, so this is a guess.
If I go to the -90, there is no freeze if I want to go to the -88 in another base. (MSP to NYC)
But, if I go to the -88, there is a freeze if I wanted to go to the -90, right? (NYC to MSP)
If I go to the -90, there is no freeze if I want to go to the -88 in another base. (MSP to NYC)
But, if I go to the -88, there is a freeze if I wanted to go to the -90, right? (NYC to MSP)
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