Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-06-2010, 01:26 PM
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05-06-2010, 04:05 PM
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Scoop, that's a bit unusual for LAX. Normally, they are waiting for you or shortly thereafter. I've only had to call ramp once or twice in two years. Don't get me wrong: they're not leaping out of their sneakers to block you in/out, but they are normally fairly responsive.
You are right - I didn't mean that LAX was especially bad, but that was about the third or fourth time that I had that happen in my last 5 days of flying.
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05-06-2010, 04:13 PM
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05-06-2010, 04:28 PM
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I don't think the case hinges on his testimony. I've not read his transcript, but the anecdotal comments related to the JFK move don't seem to be crucial to the definition of the agreement. That is not to say he will not be blamed to in a political effort to deflect criticism.
There is certainly enough in the form of public comments, e-mails and testimony about oral agreements to revise the contract, as well as the fact millions were paid without objection, to indicate the actions of the parties.
Folks like BK (former LEC 44 rep) really need to be forwarded a copy of these documents in the hope they will understand outsourcing DOES NOT benefit Delta Airlines and DOES NOT benefit Delta pilots. Even if the intent to cross subsidize Delta pilots' contract by outsourcing came from the best of intentions, in practice it fails horrendously. Just objectively looking at the history and the facts leads directly to the conclusion that Leo, Fred and Michelle's outsourcing plan isn't in the long term best interest of Delta, or its' pilots.
There is certainly enough in the form of public comments, e-mails and testimony about oral agreements to revise the contract, as well as the fact millions were paid without objection, to indicate the actions of the parties.
Folks like BK (former LEC 44 rep) really need to be forwarded a copy of these documents in the hope they will understand outsourcing DOES NOT benefit Delta Airlines and DOES NOT benefit Delta pilots. Even if the intent to cross subsidize Delta pilots' contract by outsourcing came from the best of intentions, in practice it fails horrendously. Just objectively looking at the history and the facts leads directly to the conclusion that Leo, Fred and Michelle's outsourcing plan isn't in the long term best interest of Delta, or its' pilots.
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05-06-2010, 04:58 PM
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05-06-2010, 05:18 PM
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No. He was a McKinsey consultant, then our former Chief Operating Officer, the guy responsible for negotiating and implementing the outsourcing agreements that Bar rails against. Yet Bar adored him....
He did put together a really neat "velvet rope" tour where he could gather with all his flight attendant friends, though. Besides the RJ's it's one of the only things that you can point to that he actually accomplished.
He did put together a really neat "velvet rope" tour where he could gather with all his flight attendant friends, though. Besides the RJ's it's one of the only things that you can point to that he actually accomplished.
05-06-2010, 05:36 PM
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Slow, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't he really big in to getting the 90's as well?
05-06-2010, 05:49 PM
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Change is subject - How is Virgin Doing?
Hey, who is that guy with Sir Richard? Looks familiar.
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Hey, who is that guy with Sir Richard? Looks familiar.
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05-06-2010, 06:01 PM
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The MD-90's were a Ron Allen decision and they were first delivered in 1995, well prior to any involvement by the former Boston consultant. He did advise Fred Reid and Leo Mullin, who ultimately hired him as Chief Network and Planning Officer in 2002, making him responsible for the deployment of the large RJ expansion we saw post 9-11.
05-06-2010, 06:08 PM
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I was talking about buying them on the used market, not the new ones!
I am sure you knew that
I am sure you knew that
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