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Old 05-06-2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Does this mean we LOST the case with Mesa? Looks that way to me.

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In a word, yes, but not yet. Mesa's won the last three motions in a row. I figured our next Motion would be a Motion to Dismiss.

Those of you curious about how fee for departure agreements work can get a rare glimpse into this confidential world by reading these competing Factual Findings.

(ACL, recall, I told you so)

I reiterate my post #36992. Like most of these small jet issues, I do wish that I had been wrong.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
In a word, yes.

No, no, no. The judge hasn't ruled yet. Both parties filed their final proposals only.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:56 PM
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I am reading them. Nice stuff.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Please. Kill it forever. Put your foot on its throat and slay the beast. Be our knight Johnso!

I'm trying Buzz! Maybe you can help me with that plane of yours in your avatar!
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:58 PM
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Justdoingmy job,

Mesa got an injunction against the cancellation of the agreement. That's a darn good indicator of where the Court is headed.

But another thing I hope readers catch is the fact no one thought of coordinated cancellations when they outsourced 60% of Delta's flying. The F4D carriers were paid for completion factor.

This is why we have the passenger's bill of rights and why DCI carriers would launch flights just to strand passengers on airplanes overnight. This is why Congress was compelled to fix our lousy treatment of our passengers which was a result of these outsourcing agreements.

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Old 05-06-2010, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
No, that was Mesa's final proposed order. Here is ours.

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No, no, no. The judge hasn't ruled yet. Both parties filed their final proposals only.

BAH!!! Darn legal mumbo jumbo!!!

Thanks
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:00 PM
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Bar,
If you also recall either on here or in a conversation, I also stated one individual blew a lot of DAL's case.

Anyone? Anyone?
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:01 PM
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Talking Must've been entering it from his iphone!

Today's near-1,000 point selloff in the Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU) was reportedly caused by a "fat finger" mistake by a trader at Citigroup (C)

CNBC reported that numerous sources said that a trader entered a "b" instead of an "m" for million in a trade possibly involving Procter & Gamble (PG), a Dow component. The trader reportedly placed a sell order of $16 billion, instead of $16 million, worth of e-minis, futures contracts tied to equity indexes.



Citigroup said that it has "no evidence of an erroneous trade" but that it is investigating. P&G said that it was looking into the sudden drop in the price of its stock. P&G also said that it is working with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission about what caused the plunge in its stock price.
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by INAV8OR
I don't know if this has been posted, but, my thoughts and prayers are with this guy. And we need to assist the family if needed. Also, we all should note, even when we are having a great time we should be aware that it all could end in one punch.... Man, 23, charged in assault; victim is on life support | StarTribune.com
Thanks for posting this. This guy was my RA in college my freshman year, not to mention student body president as well. He started out at NW several years ago I believe. He's a pilot too. Please keep your thoughts and prayers for him.
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
Actually in my experience the Delta ramp guys are pretty good. I hardly have to wait for a crew. 90% of the time they are there when we show up. That ain't bad. Maybe its just the stations I go to...
Ya, all in all our ramp guys do a good job with the exception of DTW and MSP. I commute through there all the time and we're constantly having to wait for marshallers. There's always room for improvement system wide and I'm sure we could save a whole ton of money just by having rampers in position upon arrival.

Just to add a question... why is it that MSP and DTW are so slow? I understand they're IAM, but how does that make them slow? Do they think by moving like molasses that the company will be tricked into hiring more rampers thus creating more jobs? Are they trying to peave Delta management off? Do they really think by slowing down the operation that management will "see the light" and give them whatever they want? I just don't get it. Does anybody understand this? It's annoying watching a ramper cause us to lose so much money in fuel when we bust our butts to save fuel! I guess it's just something we have to deal with.

Last edited by Cycle Pilot; 05-06-2010 at 01:21 PM. Reason: Added question about IAM rampers...
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