Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-05-2010, 01:45 PM
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Could you guys put a clamp on your political talk.
Moderator, where are the warnings? Are those only for lefties?
Moderator, where are the warnings? Are those only for lefties?
05-05-2010, 01:53 PM
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Avjet / Avjet BBJ is based out of KBUR. They operate about 25 aircraft on a 135, including a couple B-737-NG BBJ aircraft. They manage a butt load more. They are a world wide high end charter and have been around since the late 1970's. They are also the company who flew President Clinton to North Korea last August in one of their BBJ's.
05-05-2010, 02:04 PM
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What am I going back to???
05-05-2010, 02:07 PM
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MOD NOTE:
I'll ask again that participants on this board adhere to the TOS, and refrain from making political posts. Comments about past administrations and current administrations violates our TOS.
Cmon people! We just announced hiring!!! Who cares about that other junk. If you want to discuss it, use PM's or go to a different forum. It has no place here.
05-05-2010, 02:09 PM
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05-05-2010, 02:21 PM
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05-05-2010, 02:33 PM
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05-05-2010, 02:34 PM
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Well, I am not unbiased, but this is a terrible decision by the DOT. In tennis, you either go to the net or you get back to the baseline. If you get caught in the middle you will get creamed. In business you are either fully regulated or you are not. Right now this industry is caught in the middle and we are getting creamed. This is not a left or right issue because both sides are guilty. One side tends to interfere on labor issues and one side tends to interfere on industrial issues. In both ways, the pilots get to eat it in the end.
This slot swap is fully legal and meets all the requirements of the regulations. It should have been approved in a week. The DOT has no right to try to "level the playing field" in this industry. RC Cola (if they even exist anymore) does not get any special favors because they go up against Coke and Pepsi. If they can't compete then they can't compete. That is capitalism. In the same way, labor should be free to choose if they want to strike or not. They may make a poor decision and kill their company, but that is their right as their jobs are on the line.
I fully support the company going to court. The DOT does not have a right to try to support favored competitors and I feel they should win. The compromise offered by DAL and LCC was an excellent risk mitigation strategy, but now they should go for broke unless the DOT changes their minds. By the way, you see even the company makes compromises based on risk mitigation. Remember that the next time the union decides to settle a grievance rather than fight and risk a much worse outcome. (sorry I couldn't help myself)
The bottom line is we are either regulated or not. If we aren't regulated then get out of the way, except for safety issues. How much more screwed up does this industry have to get before we are allowed to change?
This slot swap is fully legal and meets all the requirements of the regulations. It should have been approved in a week. The DOT has no right to try to "level the playing field" in this industry. RC Cola (if they even exist anymore) does not get any special favors because they go up against Coke and Pepsi. If they can't compete then they can't compete. That is capitalism. In the same way, labor should be free to choose if they want to strike or not. They may make a poor decision and kill their company, but that is their right as their jobs are on the line.
I fully support the company going to court. The DOT does not have a right to try to support favored competitors and I feel they should win. The compromise offered by DAL and LCC was an excellent risk mitigation strategy, but now they should go for broke unless the DOT changes their minds. By the way, you see even the company makes compromises based on risk mitigation. Remember that the next time the union decides to settle a grievance rather than fight and risk a much worse outcome. (sorry I couldn't help myself)
The bottom line is we are either regulated or not. If we aren't regulated then get out of the way, except for safety issues. How much more screwed up does this industry have to get before we are allowed to change?
05-05-2010, 02:42 PM
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Well, I am not unbiased, but this is a terrible decision by the DOT. In tennis, you either go to the net or you get back to the baseline. If you get caught in the middle you will get creamed. In business you are either fully regulated or you are not. Right now this industry is caught in the middle and we are getting creamed. This is not a left or right issue because both sides are guilty. One side tends to interfere on labor issues and one side tends to interfere on industrial issues. In both ways, the pilots get to eat it in the end.
This slot swap is fully legal and meets all the requirements of the regulations. It should have been approved in a week. The DOT has no right to try to "level the playing field" in this industry. RC Cola (if they even exist anymore) does not get any special favors because they go up against Coke and Pepsi. If they can't compete then they can't compete. That is capitalism. In the same way, labor should be free to choose if they want to strike or not. They may make a poor decision and kill their company, but that is their right as their jobs are on the line.
I fully support the company going to court. The DOT does not have a right to try to support favored competitors and I feel they should win. The compromise offered by DAL and LCC was an excellent risk mitigation strategy, but now they should go for broke unless the DOT changes their minds. By the way, you see even the company makes compromises based on risk mitigation. Remember that the next time the union decides to settle a grievance rather than fight and risk a much worse outcome. (sorry I couldn't help myself)
The bottom line is we are either regulated or not. If we aren't regulated then get out of the way, except for safety issues. How much more screwed up does this industry have to get before we are allowed to change?
This slot swap is fully legal and meets all the requirements of the regulations. It should have been approved in a week. The DOT has no right to try to "level the playing field" in this industry. RC Cola (if they even exist anymore) does not get any special favors because they go up against Coke and Pepsi. If they can't compete then they can't compete. That is capitalism. In the same way, labor should be free to choose if they want to strike or not. They may make a poor decision and kill their company, but that is their right as their jobs are on the line.
I fully support the company going to court. The DOT does not have a right to try to support favored competitors and I feel they should win. The compromise offered by DAL and LCC was an excellent risk mitigation strategy, but now they should go for broke unless the DOT changes their minds. By the way, you see even the company makes compromises based on risk mitigation. Remember that the next time the union decides to settle a grievance rather than fight and risk a much worse outcome. (sorry I couldn't help myself)
The bottom line is we are either regulated or not. If we aren't regulated then get out of the way, except for safety issues. How much more screwed up does this industry have to get before we are allowed to change?
Excellent post alfa! I agree 150%. Especially the part that states we are either regulated or not. If Spirit wants to charge $45 for a carry on bag, they have every right to!!! It's a free market!!! If they want to charge $30 to use the bathroom they can. It's a free market!!!! People have a CHOICE to fly. They are not forced to. It is not a right, it is a privelege/business.
I also support the company taking this to court, and I would have been furious otherwise. This decision is BS, and I think we have a good case.
05-05-2010, 02:47 PM
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Yep, Alfa you are dead on.
I hope the Court of Appeals sees the merit in our argument. It is cut and dry but nothing is for certain when you go to court.
I hope La Hood flinches. He may have a ruling in our favor blocking him from doing anything to CAL-UAUA and he needs to see that.
I hope the Court of Appeals sees the merit in our argument. It is cut and dry but nothing is for certain when you go to court.
I hope La Hood flinches. He may have a ruling in our favor blocking him from doing anything to CAL-UAUA and he needs to see that.
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