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04-23-2010, 01:16 PM
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Superpilot92, you're talking two different things. If a few LECs pass a resolution, but the majority of the MEC do not decide to direct action, the issue dies. In this case, that action would be to enter negotiations to fix your concern.
But if you want to file a grievance, that implies the company is not living up to some portion of the contract. And I can tell you, in this case, as it relates to longevity, it was negotiated and agreed to by all three parties (DAL, DALPA, and NWALPA) that no pilot would have their pay anniversary date adjusted as a result of the merger. BTW, there are DAL pilots being treated identically to NWA, because that was the process in place when they were hired. It was never changed. Why should your's be changed now?
But if you want to file a grievance, that implies the company is not living up to some portion of the contract. And I can tell you, in this case, as it relates to longevity, it was negotiated and agreed to by all three parties (DAL, DALPA, and NWALPA) that no pilot would have their pay anniversary date adjusted as a result of the merger. BTW, there are DAL pilots being treated identically to NWA, because that was the process in place when they were hired. It was never changed. Why should your's be changed now?
We may not like how the contract us written but a grievance implies that the company is not living up to their end of the bargain. Attempting to grieve something that the company is in compliance with will go nowhere.
This is different than the MEC taking no action despite having resolutions come up from the LEC's.
The issue I, and several others, have is that the company is adding up to 16 days prior to a longevity step based on their interpretation of the fnwa contract. This comes out to around $500 from 2nd to 3rd year pay. I do believe the company is misinterpreting this section of the jpwa and will be following up on it.
I do not expect the company to step up my longevity based on my DOH because this is not what we agreed to in the jpwa.
Should this have been fixed? Absolutely!
Should the MEC have flushed the resolution directing them to look at this? IMO no, but that's what they did and filing a grievance against the company is useless, and groundless, as these are two different issues.
04-23-2010, 01:20 PM
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Not only do we get to maintain a B position with longevity but we also get the smaller DC contribution. That was put in place because our side brought Pension obligations, except no one on the bottom of the list has a pension. Now when a newhire gets hired going forward, they'll get longevity at DOH and a higher DC contribution to those of us that have been here a couple years already. Sound right?
04-23-2010, 01:23 PM
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The issue I, and several others, have is that the company is adding up to 16 days prior to a longevity step based on their interpretation of the fnwa contract. This comes out to around $500 from 2nd to 3rd year pay. I do believe the company is misinterpreting this section of the jpwa and will be following up on it.
04-23-2010, 01:23 PM
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04-23-2010, 01:25 PM
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Moak doesn't throw anything away that the MEC doesn't let him throw away. When are you guys gonna stop blaming everything on one guy? Do you honestly think the entire MEC is so hypnotized by the mystical Moak as to be powerless to stop his evil ways.....
04-23-2010, 01:27 PM
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I plan on doing so Monday morning. I'm on a trip and don't have my fnwa contract with me. I want to get home and make sure I've got all my info straight before I start making phone calls.
04-23-2010, 01:28 PM
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04-23-2010, 01:33 PM
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04-23-2010, 01:52 PM
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The issue I, and several others, have is that the company is adding up to 16 days prior to a longevity step based on their interpretation of the fnwa contract. This comes out to around $500 from 2nd to 3rd year pay. I do believe the company is misinterpreting this section of the jpwa and will be following up on it.
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With that said, the above is what my beef is right now. I called the union and company about this today and its getting looked into. The DAL side is telling the NWA side how the NWA side interpreted the contract. Thats a problem. They're trying to give us our longevity bumps on the date the first person in our class finished OE and thats not how NWA did it. Its cleary written in the contract that the NWA pilots will get longevity credit based upon the old NWA longevity process. The company is saying that longevity is the date the guy finished OE and that thats how we will get our longevity bumps.
And you get the Jan 1 pay raises too. And the longevity raises, just like you always have, coming at the time you always have. BTW, if DAL is doing it wrong as it relates to the 8th vs. 15th vs 26th etc. that's a legitimate beef. But asking for everyone to have their longevity date moved isn't. It simply wasn't negotiated for ANYONE, former DAL or NWA.
04-23-2010, 01:53 PM
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