Suit up pay goes towards guarantee.

Results:
1) Regular pilot – single pay and credit for rotation #1.
2) Reserve pilot - suit up pay and credit, and additional time free of duty under
Section 23 S. 11.

I don't have my contract with me so I'll look it up at home. Thanks for the info.

04-22-2010, 01:17 PM

#35482

satchip

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Quote:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

But the DC-9 and DC-9-88 requries a man of steal to go running towards the burning tail and save the plane as I did here.

Funny, but I always pictured you more like this:

04-22-2010, 01:34 PM

#35483

georgetg

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Position: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

Help please. I'm a 320 FO. Started SC @ 0500 & have been assigned a 1625 report to work a flight to MSP then DH back for a 2208 arrival. Is this a legal assignment?? Since when can we work 16+ hour duty days??

Let me guess for your timeline:

0500 SC starts
825 or Earlier - trip assigned, released from SC
1625 report

825 - 1625 8 hours of whitlow rest....

They do it al the time, and if you commute for SC it makes for a long day.
If we were smart we would fix this in the new contract:

SC start + 14 = max duty day, extandable to 16 with pilots concurrence...

Cheers
George

Last edited by georgetg; 04-22-2010 at 06:10 PM. Reason: mental math impaired...baby imminent...

04-22-2010, 01:35 PM

#35484

FlyingViking

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Position: B-7ER JFK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by georgetg

Let me guess for your timeline:

0500 SC starts
1025 or Earlier - trip assigned, released from SC
1625 report

1025 - 1625 8 hours of whitlow rest....

They do it al the time, and if you commute for SC it makes for a long day.
If we were smart we would fix this in the new contract:

SC start + 14 = max duty day, extandable to 16 with pilots concurrence...

Cheers
George

Can't we fix it now? That is the best idea I have seen in a long time.

04-22-2010, 01:37 PM

#35485

acl65pilot

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Posts: 18,563

George I am a little lost. 1025 to 1625 is not eight hrs. Sorry

04-22-2010, 01:39 PM

#35486

forgot to bid

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Position: Light Chop

Posts: 23,286

Quote:

Originally Posted by satchip

Funny, but I always pictured you more like this:

damn you.

LOL

04-22-2010, 02:27 PM

#35487

Denny Crane

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Your max scheduled duty period can be up to 13 hrs but is often less. Max duty for each day of your trip is listed on the righthand side of your rotation right next to your scheduled duty time. That max duty time is extendable by 2 hours per the contract. The max duty time per contract that you can be on duty is 15 hrs based on a 13 hr scheduled plus 2 hour extension. Just remember that the max duty time listed on your rotation is what you add 2 hours too. 16 hrs is an FAR limit. I will never go beyond 2 hours above my max scheduled duty time on the rotation.

Denny

Last edited by Denny Crane; 04-22-2010 at 03:16 PM. Reason: I was "re-educated" to correctness!!

04-22-2010, 02:36 PM

#35488

brakechatter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Your max scheduled duty period can be up to 13 hrs but is often less. Max duty for each day of your trip is listed on the righthand side of your rotation right next to your scheduled duty time. That max duty time is extendable by 2 hours per the contract IF you agree to it. So, if you agree, the max duty time per contract that you can be on duty is 15 hrs based on a 13 hr scheduled plus 2 hour extension. Just remember that the max duty time listed on your rotation is what you add 2 hours too. 16 hrs is an FAR limit. I will never go beyond 2 hours above my max scheduled duty time on the rotation.

Denny

Denny

-You are incorrect. Your max duty day can be extended by two hours without your consent. Section 12 D. 4.

-Again the max without your consent is max +2

-Max with your consent is Whitlow.

-Unless you are fatigued

Last edited by brakechatter; 04-22-2010 at 02:37 PM. Reason: clarity

04-22-2010, 02:44 PM

#35489

Tomcat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Reroute

My thoughts are that the number of aircraft in DCI will naturally drop to the 450-500 range. The economics of the CRJ 200 is particularly poor. The company has been parking and will continue to park CRJ-200s, so why agree to allow additional 76 seat RJs in return for the company parking jets they were going to park regardless?

If Delta needs more 76 seat jets they can fly as many as they want with Delta pilots.

Ding, Ding, Ding!!!!! Winner! Winner! Winner!

04-22-2010, 02:44 PM

#35490

FlyingViking

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Position: B-7ER JFK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Your max scheduled duty period can be up to 13 hrs but is often less. Max duty for each day of your trip is listed on the righthand side of your rotation right next to your scheduled duty time. That max duty time is extendable by 2 hours per the contract IF you agree to it. So, if you agree, the max duty time per contract that you can be on duty is 15 hrs based on a 13 hr scheduled plus 2 hour extension. Just remember that the max duty time listed on your rotation is what you add 2 hours too. 16 hrs is an FAR limit. I will never go beyond 2 hours above my max scheduled duty time on the rotation.

Denny

Denny

Quote:

Originally Posted by brakechatter

Now it is all clear as mud again....