Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-22-2010, 06:10 AM
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They also have much higher guarantees, 75 hrs for line holder and LC RES and 79 hrs for SC.
Not saying that I like code sharing with AK but at least they aren't undercutting us to get our business. Long term DALPA needs to negotiate a sunset clause in the PWA were (a) Delta succeeds on the west cost and we take over feeding our own flying, (b) we buy Alaska, or (c) the code share is terminated and Delta finds somewhere else to be more successful. IMO 5 years from the next contracts DOS should do it.
04-22-2010, 06:21 AM
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VPR, you know full well that D-ALPA will not put in to writing something that would demand purchase of an airline that we do not own 50.000001% in.
04-22-2010, 06:22 AM
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I am sure it ties in with the China Eastern deal as well..
04-22-2010, 06:26 AM
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Does anyone have the latest rumors about the next bid or movement of aircraft. I was anticipating (or hopeing for) sooner than later. I think the NY 7ER catagory is getting a little to rough with all the domestic trips and 7am reports out of LGA.
It might be time for me to get out.
Thanks,
It might be time for me to get out.
Thanks,
04-22-2010, 06:28 AM
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FlyingViking; Not sure if you would hold the 73N on this round. It went to the 04.16.07 class as the most junior in ATL.
04-22-2010, 06:35 AM
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If DCI had 102 more 70 seat jets, that put them at 357 jets, right? Not sure DAL would want only 43 50 seat RJ's. I do see where you're going with this though and it makes for an interesting scenario.
The 76 seat Jet at DCI directly takes jobs from mainline imo. I could care less how many 34 seat props, 40 and 50 seat jets that Delta has. Those aircraft inherently have a hard time competing with mainline jobs. So while it would be nice to "Cap" DCI flying I am very much against giving up any additional scope to DCI especially the 70 seat and above flying. At some point that 70 seat jet line has to stop creeping higher.
My thoughts on this? I won't vote for ANYTHING that gives up even 1 more 70 seat jet to DCI. I've been junior at Delta long enough, not really looking to prolong the pain.
The 76 seat Jet at DCI directly takes jobs from mainline imo. I could care less how many 34 seat props, 40 and 50 seat jets that Delta has. Those aircraft inherently have a hard time competing with mainline jobs. So while it would be nice to "Cap" DCI flying I am very much against giving up any additional scope to DCI especially the 70 seat and above flying. At some point that 70 seat jet line has to stop creeping higher.
My thoughts on this? I won't vote for ANYTHING that gives up even 1 more 70 seat jet to DCI. I've been junior at Delta long enough, not really looking to prolong the pain.
04-22-2010, 06:38 AM
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Does anyone have the latest rumors about the next bid or movement of aircraft. I was anticipating (or hopeing for) sooner than later. I think the NY 7ER catagory is getting a little to rough with all the domestic trips and 7am reports out of LGA.
It might be time for me to get out.
Thanks,
It might be time for me to get out.
Thanks,
What's getting so bad about it? Less international and more domestic? It seems like when I'm in PBI guys are saying that, NYC guys in particular. They say they are going down to ATL and bouncing around there until the last day when they get up to NYC again.
The reason I don't like the 7ER category is because the reserve rules seem even worse. I'm not very educated on them, but it seems that scheduling can assign 24 hr SC's? Is that correct? And they can do them back to back? How is this justified? Is it because a crew member gets rest on an ocean crossing? What if you're assigned a domestic trip? Then the Whitlow rule and lookback applies? Could you even get a domestic trip off of a 24hr SC?
Holy crap.....my head is spinning...
04-22-2010, 06:38 AM
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04-22-2010, 06:43 AM
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What's getting so bad about it? Less international and more domestic? It seems like when I'm in PBI guys are saying that, NYC guys in particular. They say they are going down to ATL and bouncing around there until the last day when they get up to NYC again.
The reason I don't like the 7ER category is because the reserve rules seem even worse. I'm not very educated on them, but it seems that scheduling can assign 24 hr SC's? Is that correct? And they can do them back to back? How is this justified? Is it because a crew member gets rest on an ocean crossing? What if you're assigned a domestic trip? Then the Whitlow rule and lookback applies? Could you even get a domestic trip off of a 24hr SC?
Holy crap.....my head is spinning...
The reason I don't like the 7ER category is because the reserve rules seem even worse. I'm not very educated on them, but it seems that scheduling can assign 24 hr SC's? Is that correct? And they can do them back to back? How is this justified? Is it because a crew member gets rest on an ocean crossing? What if you're assigned a domestic trip? Then the Whitlow rule and lookback applies? Could you even get a domestic trip off of a 24hr SC?
Holy crap.....my head is spinning...
On the International Jets the SC period is 24 hrs. You can be assigned a domestic rules trip as long as it complies with Whitlow. International Flag and Supplemental Operated flights (2,3, and 4 pilot) are not covered under Whitlow and therefore you do not have a maximum period between rest that is required. Remember reserve is not duty, but also not rest.
There are many two many international trips that fall in to this group. It is not because of rest on the rest seat on an 9 hrs flight. It is because currently there are no requirements for rest on these types of operations nor is there and guidance under the Whitlow letter. I have seen many pilots start SC at at 1130 one day and get called out for a six day trip an hr before that SC period ends the next day. It is all legal.
04-22-2010, 06:44 AM
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What's getting so bad about it? Less international and more domestic? It seems like when I'm in PBI guys are saying that, NYC guys in particular. They say they are going down to ATL and bouncing around there until the last day when they get up to NYC again.
The reason I don't like the 7ER category is because the reserve rules seem even worse. I'm not very educated on them, but it seems that scheduling can assign 24 hr SC's? Is that correct? And they can do them back to back? How is this justified? Is it because a crew member gets rest on an ocean crossing? What if you're assigned a domestic trip? Then the Whitlow rule and lookback applies? Could you even get a domestic trip off of a 24hr SC?
Holy crap.....my head is spinning...
The reason I don't like the 7ER category is because the reserve rules seem even worse. I'm not very educated on them, but it seems that scheduling can assign 24 hr SC's? Is that correct? And they can do them back to back? How is this justified? Is it because a crew member gets rest on an ocean crossing? What if you're assigned a domestic trip? Then the Whitlow rule and lookback applies? Could you even get a domestic trip off of a 24hr SC?
Holy crap.....my head is spinning...
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