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Old 04-19-2010, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
It's been direct billed to the hotels since before you or I were flying at either DAL or NWA. For a very good reason.

I know you are just being humorous, but this is a BIG step backwards.
I understand that this was a unannounced change, and one that needs to be fixed. It appears that the change was to a max of 50 dollars, and then the rest needs to be expensed. As past practices have had no limit at these two points, this is a marked change, and one that puts many pilots in a bind.

I hope that it comes to a resolution quickly.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:20 AM
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IATA is heavily criticizing the European response to the airspace crisis caused by the Icelandic volcano, accusing governments of basing critical decisions on unreliable or incomplete information.

The organization is urging Eurocontrol to set up a volcanic activity contingency centre and is seeking an urgent ICAO meeting to review the decision-making process and ensure airspace closure is the result of co-ordinated efforts and detailed data.

In the wake of several airlines' execution of test flights into the volcanic ash cloud, the airline organization says that decisions on operational safety should be founded on "fact, not theory", referring to the computer-based modeling of the ash-cloud's development.

"Governments have not taken their responsibility to make clear decisions based on facts," says director general Giovanni Bisignani.

"Instead, it has been the air navigation service providers who announced that they would not provide service - and these decisions have been taken without adequately consulting the airlines."

He claims that the "blanket" closure of airspace means a number of airlines have unreasonably been denied opportunities to operate safely.

"This is not an acceptable system particularly when the consequences for safety and the economy are so large," he says. "Risk assessments should be able to help us re-open certain corridors, if not entire airspaces."

European ministers are holding an emergency teleconference today, but this has done little to reassure IATA.

"We are far enough into this crisis to express our dissatisfaction on how governments have managed it - with no risk assessment, no consultation, no coordination, and no leadership," says Bisignani.

IATA last week estimated the daily cost of the shutdown, which began on 15 April, at $200 million.

"In the face of such dire economic consequences, it is incredible that Europe's transport ministers have taken five days to organize a teleconference," says Bisignani.

"Governments must place greater urgency and focus on how and when we can safely re-open Europe's skies. This means decisions based on risk-management, facts and utilizing operational procedures that maintain safety."
We shall see. It takes the liability off all of the governments hands and throws it to the airlines. I guess we will have to wait and see what their decision is......
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:43 AM
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IATA ... if it were up to them non union multi crew license pilots could fly through gravel at 600 miles per hour with no rest, if it made a buck.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I understand that this was a unannounced change, and one that needs to be fixed. It appears that the change was to a max of 50 dollars, and then the rest needs to be expensed. As past practices have had no limit at these two points, this is a marked change, and one that puts many pilots in a bind.

I hope that it comes to a resolution quickly.
I am a little confused here. The contract states you can be reimbursed up to 50 dollars for laundry. What is there to discuss and what does past practice have to do with this? Past practice from a contract standpoint refers to a contractual area where something is not clear but has been dealt with in a consistent manner over a period of time. Past practice has nothing to do with contractual sections changed in a new contract. This is a new section and it appears to have no grey areas.
Trying to state the contractual 50 dollar limit is not valid because of past practice would be like trying file a pay grievance stating that we should be getting paid based on the pay rates in 2004 since that is past practice.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I am a little confused here. The contract states you can be reimbursed up to 50 dollars for laundry. What is there to discuss and what does past practice have to do with this? Past practice from a contract standpoint refers to a contractual area where something is not clear but has been dealt with in a consistent manner over a period of time. Past practice has nothing to do with contractual sections changed in a new contract. This is a new section and it appears to have no grey areas.
Trying to state the contractual 50 dollar limit is not valid because of past practice would be like trying file a pay grievance stating that we should be getting paid based on the pay rates in 2004 since that is past practice.
The gray area comes from whether the laundry service is "direct billed" or not. The contract states that there is a $50 limit to what can be expensed at any station that meets the requirements, not what is direct billed in NRT and AMS only. I do not know what the past practice was at NWA as far as how much could be "direct billed" in these two places.

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Old 04-19-2010, 06:14 AM
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Our exposure to the UK is limited but BA could be in a serious bind here. They are asking the EU for compensation. Isn't government intervention banned by the EU. I seem to remember that with the Alitalia thing.
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Old 04-19-2010, 06:23 AM
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In the wake of several airlines' execution of test flights into the volcanic ash cloud, the airline organisation says that decisions on operational safety should be founded on "fact, not theory", referring to the computer-based modelling of the ash-cloud's development.

"Governments have not taken their responsibility to make clear decisions based on facts," says director general Giovanni Bisignani.
Here's some "fact, not theory" for those brave IATA desk pilots:

NATO: F-16 fighters damaged by volcanic ash
By SLOBODAN LEKIC (AP) – 3 hours ago

BRUSSELS — A senior Western diplomat says several NATO F-16 fighters suffered engine damage after flying through the volcanic ash cloud covering large parts of Europe.
The official declined to provide more details on the military flights, except to say that glasslike deposits were found inside the planes' engines after they patroled over European airspace.
Last week, two Finnish Air Force F-18 fighter-bombers suffered similar damage while flying through the ash plume that has paralyzed air traffic over much of Europe. Both landed safely, but their jet engines will require expensive overhauls.
Volcanic ash tends to stick to a jet engine's interior parts, such as the turbines, where it melts to form a glassy coating. This restricts air flow and heats up the engine, leading to engine failure.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

The Associated Press: NATO: F-16 fighters damaged by volcanic ash

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Old 04-19-2010, 07:02 AM
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Well let's see how the year of the customer goes... When your worst there is only one direction to go!!



Flying Hassle Free

Air traveler frustrations have become big press. Among recent incidents: Film director Kevin Smith took to Twitter in February to complain after Southwest deemed him “too fat to fly;” over the course of a year, musician Dave Carroll created three music videos about United breaking his guitar; and an American Airlines passenger blogged about how a fellow traveler’s request for orange juice escalated into a warning that he was violating federal law. According to the AQR, complaints have actually decreased -- 1.15 per 10,000 passengers in 2008 to 0.97 in 2009 – but that only reflects complaints to the Department of Transportation, Headley says. Problems reported solely to the airline aren’t reported. There’s also no way to tell how many were successfully resolved.

Who rated best in the survey for hassle-free travel?


* Best: Southwest. The airline had just 0.21 complaints per 100,000 passengers and was also voted a traveler favorite two years running in the AQR Consumer Satisfaction survey, Headley says. “They must be resolving problems to keep people coming back,” he says. Southwest and JetBlue are tops with consumers using SmarterTravel.com, too. “Those two airlines seem to come out on top,” Banas says.


* Worst: Delta, with 1.96 complaints per 100,000 passengers. That’s well above the average 0.97. (To put it in perspective, the next-worst, United, had a rate of 1.34.) Delta did not respond to a request for comment.



Read more: Best Airlines for 4 Types of Fliers (Page 2 of 2) at SmartMoney.com http://www.smartmoney.com/Spending/Travel/Best-Airlines-for-4-Types-of-Fliers/?page=2#ixzz0lYaclvOu
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I am a little confused here. The contract states you can be reimbursed up to 50 dollars for laundry. What is there to discuss and what does past practice have to do with this? Past practice from a contract standpoint refers to a contractual area where something is not clear but has been dealt with in a consistent manner over a period of time. Past practice has nothing to do with contractual sections changed in a new contract. This is a new section and it appears to have no grey areas.
Trying to state the contractual 50 dollar limit is not valid because of past practice would be like trying file a pay grievance stating that we should be getting paid based on the pay rates in 2004 since that is past practice.
Not debating the reimbursement limit, it's the limiting of direct bill services to the $50 reimbursement limit. In short the $50 limit does not apply to direct bill, yet this change was apparently unilaterally made.

But thanks for the management perspective Now I wonder what the union will be?
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Here's some "fact, not theory" for those brave IATA desk pilots:

NATO: F-16 fighters damaged by volcanic ash
By SLOBODAN LEKIC (AP) – 3 hours ago

BRUSSELS — A senior Western diplomat says several NATO F-16 fighters suffered engine damage after flying through the volcanic ash cloud covering large parts of Europe.
The official declined to provide more details on the military flights, except to say that glasslike deposits were found inside the planes' engines after they patroled over European airspace.
Last week, two Finnish Air Force F-18 fighter-bombers suffered similar damage while flying through the ash plume that has paralyzed air traffic over much of Europe. Both landed safely, but their jet engines will require expensive overhauls.
Volcanic ash tends to stick to a jet engine's interior parts, such as the turbines, where it melts to form a glassy coating. This restricts air flow and heats up the engine, leading to engine failure.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

The Associated Press: NATO: F-16 fighters damaged by volcanic ash
flightglobal has some articles on it. They showed the pictures of the Finnish f18s from the inside. It couldve been the inside of my hvac that's out for all I know.

Speaking of hvac, I'm trying to replace it and every contractor that gives me a bid figures out I'm a Delta pilot. It's hard trying to convey, it's not what you think! Things are different now." but oh no, they want to tell me about the ac unit on this Delta pilots mansion in St Ives...
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those two f18s
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