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04-18-2010, 04:04 PM
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Not mutually exclusive - the limiting to $50 for direct bill laundry expenses is a violation of the PWA - we either enforce the contract or don't and live with the inevitable consequences.
As to pay protection is there any word one way or another that we are pay protected per 4.E and/or 23.K or is management waiving the FM flag?
Are pilots stuck getting an extra 5:15 a day?
Rumor is they are pulling FM on the F/A's for canceled rotations to the EU
As to pay protection is there any word one way or another that we are pay protected per 4.E and/or 23.K or is management waiving the FM flag?
Are pilots stuck getting an extra 5:15 a day?
Rumor is they are pulling FM on the F/A's for canceled rotations to the EU
There is no FM for individual sections of the contract. Pilots are not getting 5:15 per day stuck. They should be getting almost 7 hours a day via 1 for 3.5. They will also get paid for any rotations they miss. I don't know why the company would pull FM on the flight attendants. They have no contract. The company can do anything they want. You could be talking about the former NW flight attendants and in that case I have no idea what they have in their contract. Delta flight attendants red book rules include some limited pay protection but I don't know the particulars.
04-18-2010, 04:04 PM
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Not mutually exclusive - the limiting to $50 for direct bill laundry expenses is a violation of the PWA - we either enforce the contract or don't and live with the inevitable consequences.
As to pay protection is there any word one way or another that we are pay protected per 4.E and/or 23.K or is management waiving the FM flag?
Are pilots stuck getting an extra 5:15 a day?
Rumor is they are pulling FM on the F/A's for canceled rotations to the EU
As to pay protection is there any word one way or another that we are pay protected per 4.E and/or 23.K or is management waiving the FM flag?
Are pilots stuck getting an extra 5:15 a day?
Rumor is they are pulling FM on the F/A's for canceled rotations to the EU
Laundry Expenses
Laundry expenses for a pilot will be reimbursed as follows:
1. A domestic category pilot is not entitled to laundry expense reimbursement.
2. An international category pilot who is engaged in international operations is eligible for reimbursement for laundry expenses incurred at a layover city if his rotation contains an ocean crossing and has a time away from base (TAFB) of 96 hours or more:
a. a receipt is required, which must be submitted through the electronic expense form, and
b. the maximum reimbursement is $50.00.Laundry expenses for a pilot will be reimbursed as follows:
1. A domestic category pilot is not entitled to laundry expense reimbursement.
2. An international category pilot who is engaged in international operations is eligible for reimbursement for laundry expenses incurred at a layover city if his rotation contains an ocean crossing and has a time away from base (TAFB) of 96 hours or more:
a. a receipt is required, which must be submitted through the electronic expense form, and
Denny
Okay, I see the "direct billed" in the above now and I can see where this might be a gray area.
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04-18-2010, 04:20 PM
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Maybe I'm reading the above wrong, but I don't see where the limiting to $50 for laundry expense is a violation of the contract. To the contrary, it states right in the contract that the expense IS limited to $50. What do you base that statement on?
Denny
Okay, I see the "direct billed" in the above now and I can see where this might be a gray area.
Laundry Expenses
Laundry expenses for a pilot will be reimbursed as follows:
1. A domestic category pilot is not entitled to laundry expense reimbursement.
2. An international category pilot who is engaged in international operations is eligible for reimbursement for laundry expenses incurred at a layover city if his rotation contains an ocean crossing and has a time away from base (TAFB) of 96 hours or more:
a. a receipt is required, which must be submitted through the electronic expense form, and
b. the maximum reimbursement is $50.00.Laundry expenses for a pilot will be reimbursed as follows:
1. A domestic category pilot is not entitled to laundry expense reimbursement.
2. An international category pilot who is engaged in international operations is eligible for reimbursement for laundry expenses incurred at a layover city if his rotation contains an ocean crossing and has a time away from base (TAFB) of 96 hours or more:
a. a receipt is required, which must be submitted through the electronic expense form, and
Denny
Okay, I see the "direct billed" in the above now and I can see where this might be a gray area.
Someone decided that the direct bill charge cannot exceed $50 equivalent.
04-18-2010, 04:46 PM
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Is that $50 per rotation or every so many days. Next month my trip is 12 days without going throuh AMS. It has 8 crossings. I don't own 8 shirts.
04-18-2010, 04:57 PM
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04-18-2010, 05:26 PM
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Then expense it two or three times! 
04-18-2010, 05:34 PM
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Good luck with that, I had a similar situation between NYC and SLC when I was displaced. They decided to fly me on a rotation that spilled into the next month, I was done at 9pm in SLC and on reserve the next day in NYC. I called scheduling and asked if they would get me a hotel room since I was finished in SLC, had already moved out of my apartment, and not even based there. They declined, said It's up to me to get to my base. I finally got a CP on the line who offered to make sure I was on late short call so I could make it in time. I ended up taking a redeye to JFK, thanks scheduling!
04-18-2010, 05:34 PM
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04-18-2010, 05:36 PM
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Geez I carry one extra, maybe two in the summer. Not t-shirts, that is one a duty day.
04-18-2010, 05:44 PM
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Do you have some substantiation for that, and if so, have you directed the affected pilot to CA?
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