Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-15-2010, 09:44 AM
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Also Delta Meteorology is good too!
04-15-2010, 09:48 AM
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I beleive that everyone wishes that were true. I would love to buy a fleet of 737/320's or the like and do all of that flying, who wouldn't? I have tried to explain the reasoning behind the decision and I guess we can shoot the messenger. So be it.
Given the Alaska Marketing agreement in section one, the solution that also poses issues is a merger. Other than that, do you think that you are going to buy the company off on this deal? Not likely.
Push for a percentage of that revenue. Push for limits on the code. Those are ways to solve that. I do not like them taking more of our flying, just like you. Go read their agreement in our section one, and offer solutions!
Given the Alaska Marketing agreement in section one, the solution that also poses issues is a merger. Other than that, do you think that you are going to buy the company off on this deal? Not likely.
Push for a percentage of that revenue. Push for limits on the code. Those are ways to solve that. I do not like them taking more of our flying, just like you. Go read their agreement in our section one, and offer solutions!
My comments weren't directed at you or anyone else ACL...just venting is all. It frustrates me to see another company doing the flying that I believe we should be doing. I know I dont have the magic bean counter and the guys in Network planning do, so I'll just remain quiet and just fly the planes
04-15-2010, 09:50 AM
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No reason to be quiet! Just understand what it is, and what we can do.
It is OK to vent too.
Go read the Alaska Marketing agreement and tell me what you think.
It is OK to vent too.
Go read the Alaska Marketing agreement and tell me what you think.
04-15-2010, 10:07 AM
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I just read this story and watched the videos. Not real great but a start.
Iceland's volcanic ash halts flights across Europe - Yahoo! News
Denny
04-15-2010, 10:10 AM
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They are saying this could last for days!!! should get interesting!!
04-15-2010, 10:19 AM
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I just read this story and watched the videos. Not real great but a start.
Iceland's volcanic ash halts flights across Europe - Yahoo! News
Denny
Iceland's volcanic ash halts flights across Europe - Yahoo! News
Denny
04-15-2010, 10:29 AM
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Damm! I knew Volcanic activity should have bumped Gamma Rays - Last time I take input from NASA! 
Scoop
The ER may be moving West West. We will see what is on the final revision of the AE.....
Double digit revenue spike this year. Lets hope oil does not play a spoiler like it did in years past.[/quote]
If not oil something else will pop up - it always does:
9-11
War
SARS
Oil
Housing bubble
but Im thinking something new for this year, possibly something among the following:
Killer sunspots
Global warming
9.0 Earthquake centered on ATL
Anything to do with Muslim extremeists and shoes
Gamma rays
H2/N5 virus
Airplane parts from China with excessive levels of lead
Oh well, we will know soon enough.
Scoop
Double digit revenue spike this year. Lets hope oil does not play a spoiler like it did in years past.[/quote]
If not oil something else will pop up - it always does:
9-11
War
SARS
Oil
Housing bubble
but Im thinking something new for this year, possibly something among the following:
Killer sunspots
Global warming
9.0 Earthquake centered on ATL
Anything to do with Muslim extremeists and shoes
Gamma rays
H2/N5 virus
Airplane parts from China with excessive levels of lead
Oh well, we will know soon enough.
Scoop
Scoop
04-15-2010, 10:32 AM
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Oh, the irony after various jokes about what sort of "unplanned" things may happen that cause us not to make a profit...
edit: you beat me to it, Scoop!
We just need to put some DC-9 captains in the planes and send them over there. They'll get the job done.
newKnow vs. the volcano, 2010 edition.
edit: you beat me to it, Scoop!
We just need to put some DC-9 captains in the planes and send them over there. They'll get the job done.
newKnow vs. the volcano, 2010 edition.
04-15-2010, 10:35 AM
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I've got an idea. Feed OUR OWN passengers into Seattle and LA and stop outsourcing to Alaska. "The market is too saturated"..blah blah blah. If that's the case, why dont we outsource to Jetblue on the east coast since the Florida to NY market seems pretty damn saturated as well....
My comments weren't directed at you or anyone else ACL...just venting is all. It frustrates me to see another company doing the flying that I believe we should be doing. I know I dont have the magic bean counter and the guys in Network planning do, so I'll just remain quiet and just fly the planes
My comments weren't directed at you or anyone else ACL...just venting is all. It frustrates me to see another company doing the flying that I believe we should be doing. I know I dont have the magic bean counter and the guys in Network planning do, so I'll just remain quiet and just fly the planes
As ACL explained a day or so ago (i.e. 100 pages ago on this thread) we create a price war, we spend millions on marketing to unseat the already popular Alaska and SWA, RASM drops below that which the company would've made with the codeshare and our LFs are too low too warrant anything but RJs on the route. If that happens, management is called to the carpet and we as mainline DAL pilots don't win any new flying.
I think this is one thing we're all in together in hating. I wish we'd increase our flying out of their hubs to their popular destinations so that its not a one sided win and we establish the name, Delta, in their market. If anything happens to the codeshare (AMR/SWA buys Alaska, Alaska turns out to be a ponzi scheme like SWA and folds, any other slightly absurd ideas) then we aren't starting from nothing.
Then we pick back up the SEA-ATL/BOS/NYC flying overnight in larger 757s and create a price war funded by our worldwide operation. Its kind of like "sure, go out with my daughter tonight, but we're going in my car and I'm going to be holding this gun to your temple. So be cool, don't flinch, and just know I don't want you here but I'll let you be here, tonight."
[disclaimer, this is not anti-Alaska pilots. This is protecting Delta pilots until said time when Alaska pilots are Delta pilots, at which point, welcome aboard.
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I think I am against parking any CRJ-200s and ERJ-145s. I am not 100% opposed to CRJ700s and CPZ-only Ejets IF, IF, we redeploy them to antagonize SWA. Match them $ for $. We'd probably make a fortune, $800 walkup fares on SWA now? Also, give those DCIs a taste of things to come in cost sharing in exchange for not parking their jets but not allowing those jets that would be parked to service previous Delta hub routes.
04-15-2010, 10:44 AM
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