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Old 04-14-2010, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Slow, great points, I also stated that we could look at variances and or other options.
Sorry I put 401C that was a mistake, looking at some other stuff on my side of things and that was on my mind, should have said 415C

I know I am one that like to have as much money in a tax deferred account as possible. I know I would put at much as I could there since these types of payments are taxed at a much higher rate if they are paid to you in the form of a bonus check.

That said, I know many would want the cash.

So lets talk about this. How could we have the option of putting it in a 415C et al but allow pilots the option to take the cash instead. I am stumped, but I would like to give them that option. I guess we could have two options on what the payment is called to get around the goose and gander issues with said payments.
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If it's big enough it won't matter because between the DC plan (14% by 1 Jan 2012) and some big cash payment from the JV your 401K will be filled up by those two ($49,000 in 2010). If other people want more cash they can elect not to have their 401K funded because they are receiving enough in the 401k by the other two methods.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleSam
Welcome back, Dude! Thanks for your service in far away places.
Another WELCOME BACK!

Thanks for your service.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:07 PM
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New.... You're killing me!!!!! I hope we have nice FO's when I make Captain to help fold my walker! I'll do the crawl around.... I've fallen and I can't get up...

Even with guys retiring say at an statistical average of 62, it's nothing but ugly. That was like a cold bucket of water
Yep, unless there is some organic growth, many of our upgrades would make a good installment on Sunset Daze.

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Old 04-14-2010, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomcat
New.... You're killing me!!!!! I hope we have nice FO's when I make Captain to help fold my walker! I'll do the crawl around.... I've fallen and I can't get up...

Even with guys retiring say at an statistical average of 62, it's nothing but ugly. That was like a cold bucket of water
Um. I'm sorry. I guess I had already resolved with myself that nothing was going to go down for the next 5 years. But, man when 2015 hits, it's on!

At the time, it was anything to get past the N v. S thing. (Which didn't work.)
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:36 PM
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Ok, where are the bids!!!! I"m clad I'm not an F/O waiting on this crap system.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
Ya, the -88 gets hot, too, especially during the Summer time when it's 90 degrees out. The day in MCO when I saw all these APU's running it was about 65 degrees out. I've been in the back of many Airbuses over the years that single engine taxi. The noise is no worse than the hydraulic pumps running on -88. I think it's actually quieter.

It's been hammered into me to save fuel since I was at Skywest. Delta also hammers us on saving fuel. It's almost like a challenge to see if you can have the APU come on line just as the Captain sets the brake at the gate. After working so hard to save gas, it's frustrating seeing DAL-N aircraft not doing the same thing. I don't understand the operational reasons why you wouldn't shut an APU down when you have good air and power hooked up on a mild temp day. Or why you wouldn't taxi single engine when you have a 20 minute long taxi in LGA or MSP. My only conclusion is that there's just a different mindset and the DAL-N crews weren't hammered on saving gas. That's why I'm bringing this up. Maybe things will change as the crews integrate more and we become "mixed nuts." It's hard to change after you've been doing something the same way for a long time.
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I guess what I was getting at in a round about way was that when you speak of this different mindset, or common sense that needs to be exercised, it is similar to North guys saying that the South ways are old technology or backwards. I think we are all on the same page as far as fuel savings goes, but just wanted to point out situations on the DC-9 where fuel savings takes a backseat to comfort.

I'm sure there will be a better understanding when we do mix things and crews up more. But, that does not mean that there will necessarily be change either way. We might wind up somewhere in the middle. Or, we might already agree. We just don't know yet. It will all work itself out, I'm sure.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Cycle,

I guess what I was getting at in a round about way was that when you speak of this different mindset, or common sense that needs to be exercised, it is similar to North guys saying that the South ways are old technology or backwards. I think we are all on the same page as far as fuel savings goes, but just wanted to point out situations on the DC-9 where fuel savings takes a backseat to comfort.

I'm sure there will be a better understanding when we do mix things and crews up more. But, that does not mean that there will necessarily be change either way. We might wind up somewhere in the middle. Or, we might already agree. We just don't know yet. It will all work itself out, I'm sure.
I totally agree with the North guys on this fact... The South technology IS backwards!! They need to take a flamethrower to the IT system and start all over again!
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL73n
ACL,

If it's big enough it won't matter because between the DC plan (14% by 1 Jan 2012) and some big cash payment from the JV your 401K will be filled up by those two ($49,000 in 2010). If other people want more cash they can elect not to have their 401K funded because they are receiving enough in the 401k by the other two methods.
Amen and agreed. I know the limits. Just wish they were higher....
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:11 PM
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60+ hrs and not a single bid posted?! What witch's brew are they making this month?
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
I totally agree with the North guys on this fact... The South technology IS backwards!! They need to take a flamethrower to the IT system and start all over again!
You, my friend, may critique the 320 and DC-9's APU usage all you want!
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