Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-13-2010, 02:45 AM
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04-13-2010, 02:48 AM
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04-13-2010, 02:55 AM
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You have valid points, but why then would AA be shelving MD-83s (former TWA were glass) and ordered over 140 NG 737s? With the economy on the fragile brink of recovery, oil already hovering near $90, the thought of anything narrow body powered by JT8D, yes the MD-90 is VM2500 (or whatever), is scary. If Douglas is the solution, why then to profitable airlines fly Boeing or Airbus? Why then did the A320/319 replace the 90 in SLC? Obviously more efficient, higher load and longer range. I'm sure the 90 has it's place, but up to what fuel price point. Certainly a dead goat at $100 a barrel or third world countries wouldn't be unloading them for Airbus orders themselves... There is something larger taking place here, it's not fDAL methodology.
IMO, we need to do some of replacement now as our delivery cycle of these jets will be too slow to replace what is on property now. We will be over the barrel with our fleet which will force us to pay a higher price for these jets and jump to the front of the line. Not because we will want to but because we will need to.
For the reason above I see DAL doing some very specific fleet renewal over the next 2-5 years. If the "right" jet is revamped we will order big as it will allow us a rational retirement of the fleet. The current 320/73n's would leave in the 2025 time frame with the new order that will be coming in the next five years leaving after 2029. It allows us to be in a better position when we are in the market for a fleet that will take us to 2050.
04-13-2010, 03:02 AM
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04-13-2010, 03:54 AM
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AWABS conversion update trivia for DAL-N pilots.
I was on one of the 11 flights that started the wide body AWABS conversion on 10 April.
Flight Plan Upload Successful?
10 April NO, not working on company side
12 April NO, supposed to work but would not uplink. Help desk said after two tries, its not going to work for that leg.
13 April NO, Mechanic entered From/TO info on INIT page. No prompt.
Do not enter any info on INIT page of MCDU. If you do the Uplink prompt goes away and you can't get it back for that leg.
AWABS also for some reason broke the Digital ATIS via ACARS at some of the Asia stations. Not sure why.
AWABS Flight Paperwork Package at Narita. Waited for 35 minutes before the envelope showed up. Might be a printer issue since AWABS uses dot matrix and NRT had converted to laser for most paperwork.
Pre AWABS Enroute Winds could be updated at 0000Z, 0600z, 1200z, 1800z
Post AWABS Enroute Winds - you can update all you want (if uplink is working) but its going to be the same winds you had at start of leg.
Performance Index (not Cost Index) supposed to be uplinked with Flight Plan.
ICAO Flight Plan
Pre AWABS you got the actual text used to file your flight plan.
Post AWABS you get a sterilized version. You won't see if you were filed using TAS or Mach and you won't see the change in FL filed at a given way point.
Don't ask the FO for help, he doesn't get a copy of the Release.
WDR seems to be working.
More later after leg #4.
I was on one of the 11 flights that started the wide body AWABS conversion on 10 April.
Flight Plan Upload Successful?
10 April NO, not working on company side
12 April NO, supposed to work but would not uplink. Help desk said after two tries, its not going to work for that leg.
13 April NO, Mechanic entered From/TO info on INIT page. No prompt.
Do not enter any info on INIT page of MCDU. If you do the Uplink prompt goes away and you can't get it back for that leg.
AWABS also for some reason broke the Digital ATIS via ACARS at some of the Asia stations. Not sure why.
AWABS Flight Paperwork Package at Narita. Waited for 35 minutes before the envelope showed up. Might be a printer issue since AWABS uses dot matrix and NRT had converted to laser for most paperwork.
Pre AWABS Enroute Winds could be updated at 0000Z, 0600z, 1200z, 1800z
Post AWABS Enroute Winds - you can update all you want (if uplink is working) but its going to be the same winds you had at start of leg.
Performance Index (not Cost Index) supposed to be uplinked with Flight Plan.
ICAO Flight Plan
Pre AWABS you got the actual text used to file your flight plan.
Post AWABS you get a sterilized version. You won't see if you were filed using TAS or Mach and you won't see the change in FL filed at a given way point.
Don't ask the FO for help, he doesn't get a copy of the Release.
WDR seems to be working.
More later after leg #4.
04-13-2010, 03:59 AM
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I have a question for Delta S pilots.
Why is it that when a union meeting reveals more domestic and international codeshare, S pilots get excited....
Maybe I am missing something here, but it seems the codeshare with Alaska, a higher cost per seat mile airline, is not the ultimate business solution. It only results in pilots getting kicked further east and bumping more junior pilots to lesser paid equipment. The company has been given entirely too much leeway on scope relief and I am one too few waiving the *** flag? Sure airlines like AA have furloughed thousands, but imagine if they weren't capped at 50 70-seat jets, AA would be a brand name only with 6,000 pilots.
Why is it that when a union meeting reveals more domestic and international codeshare, S pilots get excited....
Maybe I am missing something here, but it seems the codeshare with Alaska, a higher cost per seat mile airline, is not the ultimate business solution. It only results in pilots getting kicked further east and bumping more junior pilots to lesser paid equipment. The company has been given entirely too much leeway on scope relief and I am one too few waiving the *** flag? Sure airlines like AA have furloughed thousands, but imagine if they weren't capped at 50 70-seat jets, AA would be a brand name only with 6,000 pilots.
Why is it that you ask this question of a specific group of Delta pilots when the Alaska code share was imported from the NWA CBA? It was the NWA (primarily Seattle) operation that required AS feed (over 20,000 coded flights per month).
Nobody is "excited" about outsourcing. I think many on here are realistic, however. There's no way DAL could have profitably replaced the AS feed that was already under contract. Not having that feed means no West Coast gateways for Delta pilots.
04-13-2010, 04:05 AM
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04-13-2010, 04:12 AM
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04-13-2010, 04:15 AM
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AWABS conversion update trivia for DAL-N pilots.
I was on one of the 11 flights that started the wide body AWABS conversion on 10 April.
Flight Plan Upload Successful?
10 April NO, not working on company side
12 April NO, supposed to work but would not uplink. Help desk said after two tries, its not going to work for that leg.
13 April NO, Mechanic entered From/TO info on INIT page. No prompt.
Do not enter any info on INIT page of MCDU. If you do the Uplink prompt goes away and you can't get it back for that leg.
I was on one of the 11 flights that started the wide body AWABS conversion on 10 April.
Flight Plan Upload Successful?
10 April NO, not working on company side
12 April NO, supposed to work but would not uplink. Help desk said after two tries, its not going to work for that leg.
13 April NO, Mechanic entered From/TO info on INIT page. No prompt.
Do not enter any info on INIT page of MCDU. If you do the Uplink prompt goes away and you can't get it back for that leg.
AWABS also for some reason broke the Digital ATIS via ACARS at some of the Asia stations. Not sure why.
AWABS Flight Paperwork Package at Narita. Waited for 35 minutes before the envelope showed up. Might be a printer issue since AWABS uses dot matrix and NRT had converted to laser for most paperwork.
Pre AWABS Enroute Winds could be updated at 0000Z, 0600z, 1200z, 1800z
Post AWABS Enroute Winds - you can update all you want (if uplink is working) but its going to be the same winds you had at start of leg.
Pre AWABS Enroute Winds could be updated at 0000Z, 0600z, 1200z, 1800z
Post AWABS Enroute Winds - you can update all you want (if uplink is working) but its going to be the same winds you had at start of leg.
Performance Index (not Cost Index) supposed to be uplinked with Flight Plan.
ICAO Flight Plan
Pre AWABS you got the actual text used to file your flight plan.
Post AWABS you get a sterilized version. You won't see if you were filed using TAS or Mach and you won't see the change in FL filed at a given way point.
Post AWABS you get a sterilized version. You won't see if you were filed using TAS or Mach and you won't see the change in FL filed at a given way point.
Don't ask the FO for help, he doesn't get a copy of the Release.
WDR seems to be working.
More later after leg #4.
More later after leg #4.
04-13-2010, 04:43 AM
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Economically speaking, if we were to enter these markets too, the RASM goes though the floor and everyone loses money. A code allows revenue gained from each seat sold, less competition, and control over how it is done.
Now I agree, we as the pilots should be negotiating some percentage of the revenue from each code share, or JV deal.
Now I agree, we as the pilots should be negotiating some percentage of the revenue from each code share, or JV deal.
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