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Good decision. Difficult to argue with that last point. By the way, I wasn't the one who initiated that conversation. We all are entitled to complain, but let's keep it real and not try to convince DAL S guys that DAL N guys took a pay cut. It's BS and we don't want to hear it. Complain about real things and we will all get along and complain together as one unified whinny pilot group like always. ![Big Grin](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
By the way, where did you get the finger wagger? I like it.
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By the way, where did you get the finger wagger? I like it.
Addition: I only check this forum once a day and am sometimes overwhelmed at the number of posts in 24 hours. A lot has been posted between this response from a post 5 or 6 pages earlier not realizing how much had transpired. Sorry if it is a little out of place here.
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Yesterday while flying out of Atlanta, I have to say my uneasiness about becoming a reluctant transcon commuter was realized in a big way. Captain of the flight had a hall from A1 gate to E1 gate for a 46 minute turn and although I had everything ready to go the gate agent would not allow 9 passengers and 3 non-revs on to the aircraft because it was with in 5 minutes of departure. The big deal was that one of the people waiting for the gate agent to come to his senses was the Captain of the flight!
All in all when the gate agent decided to listen for just a moment everyone was boarded and we left only 7 minutes late.
So I ask all of my flying peers to help out all of us employees, pilots commuting, employee families taking that one vacation together or for crying out loud the passenger paying our salaries, by checking with the gate and even walking the boarding area to see if anyone will be left behind because of the OT zero debacle (and gate agents feeling they control the jumpseat). I know we cant always get everyone on but sometimes the guy with 4 stripes or even 3 stripes can do a lot to get everyone on board.
Sorry to rant but asking for help from the guys and gals flying the line seems to be better than having high blood pressure and being angry....
Thanks again for looking out for one another especially when more than a few of us are now forced to commute......
BTW we did make phone calls about this particular incident and it met with less than confident results. But we are not done making calls either..
Thanks
All in all when the gate agent decided to listen for just a moment everyone was boarded and we left only 7 minutes late.
So I ask all of my flying peers to help out all of us employees, pilots commuting, employee families taking that one vacation together or for crying out loud the passenger paying our salaries, by checking with the gate and even walking the boarding area to see if anyone will be left behind because of the OT zero debacle (and gate agents feeling they control the jumpseat). I know we cant always get everyone on but sometimes the guy with 4 stripes or even 3 stripes can do a lot to get everyone on board.
Sorry to rant but asking for help from the guys and gals flying the line seems to be better than having high blood pressure and being angry....
Thanks again for looking out for one another especially when more than a few of us are now forced to commute......
BTW we did make phone calls about this particular incident and it met with less than confident results. But we are not done making calls either..
Thanks
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Waves....This is just another case of "the regulars on this board have hashed and re-hashed this argument over and over and over before you joined." It's new to you but a dead horse for those that have been here for a while. That's why you are getting the "stir the pot" comments.
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In DTW especially, it helps if you are a little "proactive" with the gate agents. If you go out to the podium and let them know that you want to make sure all the non-revs get on, they kind of get the message and know that you will not leave with a seat open. In situations where you can figure out who the non rev's are, it also helps to go over to them and let them know that you know about them and that you are doing everything you can to make sure they get on. If the agents see this, they also know that you kind of know who to be looking out for. Most of the agents in DTW go on trips and non rev out of there all them time. So, they appreciate what you are doing and are cool about it.
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Yeah, I know, but as I have said in my last few posts, my goal is not to stir the pot, rather it is to fully understand why so many of the Northerners feel like they got shafted in this merger. Most of my posts have actually been defensive in nature. This issue may be a dead horse, but a lot of DAL N guys are still riding it. I just want to understand why. I don't get to fly with DAL N guys, and probably won't anytime soon, so this is my only real method of getting other's view points. Until I get my arms around this issue, I will undoubtedly keep flogging that dead horse.
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In DTW especially, it helps if you are a little "proactive" with the gate agents. If you go out to the podium and let them know that you want to make sure all the non-revs get on, they kind of get the message and know that you will not leave with a seat open. In situations where you can figure out who the non rev's are, it also helps to go over to them and let them know that you know about them and that you are doing everything you can to make sure they get on. If the agents see this, they also know that you kind of know who to be looking out for. Most of the agents in DTW go on trips and non rev out of there all them time. So, they appreciate what you are doing and are cool about it.
Proactive with even hint of civility and personality = Results + Kumbaya
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Godfathers on Saipan, my favorite spot in the whole system, including AMS....but I understand I need to see Sal Palo.
YouTube - GODFATHERS I LOVE THIS BAR - DUMB ASS EDIT
That's the owner who walks in right at the end. Also, I've never seen anyone with a cowboy hat....guess they did that for the video. But, I did recognize several of the old expats I know from happy hour.
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Godfathers on Saipan, my favorite spot in the whole system, including AMS....but I understand I need to see Sal Palo.
YouTube - GODFATHERS I LOVE THIS BAR - DUMB ASS EDIT
That's the owner who walks in right at the end. Also, I've never seen anyone with a cowboy hat....guess they did that for the video. But, I did recognize several of the old expats I know from happy hour.
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Yeah, I know, but as I have said in my last few posts, my goal is not to stir the pot, rather it is to fully understand why so many of the Northerners feel like they got shafted in this merger. Most of my posts have actually been defensive in nature. This issue may be a dead horse, but a lot of DAL N guys are still riding it. I just want to understand why. I don't get to fly with DAL N guys, and probably won't anytime soon, so this is my only real method of getting other's view points. Until I get my arms around this issue, I will undoubtedly keep flogging that dead horse.
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Seriously folks....we need to slow down the rate and volume of posts on this thread. I (and I'll bet many others) don't have enough time to keep up without checking it 3 or 4 times a day to keep it manageable. If it wasn't like crack, I could walk away, but I confess I am addicted. Sheesh! Throttle back already!
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Okay, just some fun factoids for you about "Any Latest & Greatest About Delta"
Guard Dude opened this thread up on 04-20-2007. That was post #1. Post #3 is 80, he was an old hand around this place by then.
Rhino Driver was 9 and I think ACL showed up around 29.
January 1, 2008 begins at post 933 on page 94.
January 1, 2009 begins on post 3872 on page 388.
January 1, 2010 begins on a delightful post from the lovable Forgot to Bid on page 2288… post # 22,872.
January 2, 2010 begins on post 23,084 on page 2309. Some 21 pages and 213 posts after January 1 began with some delightful post.
Required reading for merger talk, and not a fun time for anyone involved (i.e. not our greatest moments), is from January 1st to February 1st 2010, which is pages 2288 to 2789.
Guard Dude opened this thread up on 04-20-2007. That was post #1. Post #3 is 80, he was an old hand around this place by then.
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January 1, 2008 begins at post 933 on page 94.
January 1, 2009 begins on post 3872 on page 388.
January 1, 2010 begins on a delightful post from the lovable Forgot to Bid on page 2288… post # 22,872.
January 2, 2010 begins on post 23,084 on page 2309. Some 21 pages and 213 posts after January 1 began with some delightful post.
Required reading for merger talk, and not a fun time for anyone involved (i.e. not our greatest moments), is from January 1st to February 1st 2010, which is pages 2288 to 2789.
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I'm Here!!!!
ACL and all, it seems better on the line..... Finishing OE on the Bus today. Everyone at the training center was great. Showed up in my new base a few days ago and guys were stumbling over each other to say hello and introduce themselves to the new Delta South guy. Everyone has been really outgoing and accommodating.
I'm sure that I'll fly with a guy every now and then that might be dis-gruntled, but that happened prior to the merger. He's got one leg to ***** up a storm..... I'll listen, but after that, I just want to press on, get the job done and have a good trip. I think most of us "Line Dogs" are that way. I've already had the discussion with a couple of guys that I want to hear everyones story, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter to me if I'm flying with a "Red Book", "Green Book" or Delta South guy...... Just want to get the job done safely and enjoy my rotation.
Now, let's look forward....... 2012
ACL and all, it seems better on the line..... Finishing OE on the Bus today. Everyone at the training center was great. Showed up in my new base a few days ago and guys were stumbling over each other to say hello and introduce themselves to the new Delta South guy. Everyone has been really outgoing and accommodating.
I'm sure that I'll fly with a guy every now and then that might be dis-gruntled, but that happened prior to the merger. He's got one leg to ***** up a storm..... I'll listen, but after that, I just want to press on, get the job done and have a good trip. I think most of us "Line Dogs" are that way. I've already had the discussion with a couple of guys that I want to hear everyones story, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter to me if I'm flying with a "Red Book", "Green Book" or Delta South guy...... Just want to get the job done safely and enjoy my rotation.
Now, let's look forward....... 2012
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