Superpilot92

agreed 100%

With that said, theres no point in arguing about it like some do on here. The point is to work together as a whole to make it more in all categories going forward.

hockeypilot44

We need to increase our pay enough so my buddy here can pay his bills and have some left over to replace the extra money he is spending now. We need more money. Too many of us are hurting.

Waves

For Super and maddog: Just calling it like it is. Sorry to bring it up, but a lot of material presented in the SLI mediation. Lots of people looking at and carefully dissecting the issue at that time. Mediators didn't see it that way, and neither did I. I'm not trying to stir the pot, but the arguments you present didn't hold water then, and they still don't. You can believe them if you want to, it is your perogative, but don't expect anyone else to. Sorry to be so blunt.

FlyingSig

Wow, I've read some crazy stuff on the internets before, but this one is right up there.... I think we need a Snopes for DALPA.


I'm a committee guy. I don't have to report anything to the MEC unless I'm doing work directed by the MEC.

To put it in plainer English.... your statement is false.

Superpilot92

You mean you're calling it LIKE YOU SEE IT. to be blunt, I've worked under both systems, you have not. I know where we gained and where we lost. I'll say again, we gained in some areas and lost in others. Time to move forward as its pointless to argue now. Just please dont come on here and say your not trying to stir the pot when you are.

RockyBoy

Hey you need DALPA to put a cap in place to protect yourself from yourself. If you were allowed to fly 80+ hours per month then you would ruin your own career. Come on don't be selfish, drop more trips so we can hire more people. Who cares if you can't pay your bills. If you need more money, just put in a GS because that system is awesome and will make you WAAAYYY more money than getting paid 1.5X pay for time flown above 80.

DAL73n

If you go to training aids - that works also.

DAL73n

Who wants to fly that much?????

I think one of the things we need to think about is how anyone can make a good living at this on just the reserve guarantee - 70 hours a month. That is about all you can count on - you can't (and shouldn't) need to get more than 70 hours pay/month - so our compensation targets should be based on that - just ask the guys stuck on reserve (anywhere from 10-30% of the company at any one time) how well they live on 70 hours.

That being said - for those of you that want to make more you should be able to fly extra. Just don't make the rest of us have work overtime just to make ends meet.

Waves

Maybe I should have just said, "I'm just calling it like all the SLI DAL attorneys saw it, all three mediators saw it, and the majority of the DAL S pilot group saw it." Would that work for ya? I'm glad I didn't have to work under both systems like you, because I would of had to take a pay cut to work under your old rules. If you think I am trying to stir the pot, then so be it.

By the way, just to amplify just one point: Since no one ever flies the exact same amount of hours each month, should those fluctuations be considered pay raises and pay cuts?

If one flies 70 hrs this month and then 80 hours the next month, I guess this would be considered a pay raise. Then if one flies 70 hours the next month, they have just recieved another pay cut. So if this holds true, then DAL could conceivably drop your hourly rate by 25% and then you could just fly 30% more and you would instantly have a 5% pay raise. I think you are confused my friend.

Superpilot92

again, stirring the pot

I wont bite, its time to move forward and make it better and stop the holier than thou attitudes.