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Old 04-10-2010, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by nerd2009
Can anyone chime in on the latest on MD90's from Saudi.

Rumor is a pilot on a FCF from LCA to Shanghai in a China MD90 was told that the Saudi deal was done.

How many MD90's does Saudi have that may be coming to DAL ?
It is a doable mod to all of our jets. So there is a logical path with NextGen gaining a foot hold.

Just sayin....
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:10 AM
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Heyas Sink,

I'm not a proxy for anyone. I'm just calling it like I see it.

The committee thing seems especially goofy to me. Apparently, if a committee guy gets a call from a LEC rep, he must then report that contact to the MEC leadership.

?!?!

I don't even know where to start with that, if true.

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Hi Nu,

Maybe I shouldn't say "proxy" as much as "actual reps and committee people". And maybe you're neither.

My point is that noone here discloses their role in union politics, but the more I read, the more I realize it's people that are close to the action that are posting, under the guise of being, you know, "just a pilot". It's hard to piece together, just like it's hard to piece together the real ages of people on a social network site, but all the sudden it feels like, darn, I'm the only actual fifteen-year old teenage girl that wants to talk "Twilight" on here, and everyone else is a 55-year-old fat man trying to get me to a "Starbucks" for a 10PM "meeting".

As far as Committees go, I think I know where to start with the "contact issue". If you want to have access to committees, then have it, but you definitely should have to report it.

Why?

I understand you guys up North were so paranoid about each other that you had to have dual structures on every committee, and those dual structures reported to whomever they were influenced by. Under no circumstances would I want to ever see that again. I want a stronger admin reporting to an even stronger MEC, which will be made up of strong, responsive (to the pilots) LEC officers. Committees need to get their marching orders from the MEC, via the admininstration, or the MEC itself if the administration is filtering out the message (in which case it gets canned). So a "contact" between individual LEC officers and the committees, who work on behalf of all councils, is either fact-finding by the LEC, which is innocent enough (in which case reporting it isn't a problem), or it's an attempt to give direction (in which case reporting it is a must). It's that simple. There is no "inertia" in monitoring access to committees that work for everyone. That's actually clean and simple.

If your problem is that the administration is not responsive to the MEC, a charge I've heard on the South side as well, then you may have a legitmate gripe. In that case, the MEC would rightfully act on it by getting a better administration. But I sure as hell don't want committe actions driven by political links between individual LEC's and officers, that shortcut the influence of other LEC's.
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Thanks.....I think, just don't let me get too adicted this time.
No worries, there is noone here who would get too addicted to the sound of their own voice. So you're perfectly safe, here with us.

Here, write yourself a nice long post. Just don't inhale, alright?
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:54 AM
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Ok. Acl just threw me for a loop. He changed it for me! I guess he was trying to protect me from myself.

IF only he could have been around when I proposed to my first wife.....
And my second...
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Old 04-10-2010, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
Ferds Back!!! Welcome back

UNCLE FERD'S BACK!

AWESOME!
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Old 04-10-2010, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Hi Nu,

Maybe I shouldn't say "proxy" as much as "actual reps and committee people". And maybe you're neither.

My point is that noone here discloses their role in union politics, but the more I read, the more I realize it's people that are close to the action that are posting, under the guise of being, you know, "just a pilot". It's hard to piece together, just like it's hard to piece together the real ages of people on a social network site, but all the sudden it feels like, darn, I'm the only actual fifteen-year old teenage girl that wants to talk "Twilight" on here, and everyone else is a 55-year-old fat man trying to get me to a "Starbucks" for a 10PM "meeting".

As far as Committees go, I think I know where to start with the "contact issue". If you want to have access to committees, then have it, but you definitely should have to report it.

Why?

I understand you guys up North were so paranoid about each other that you had to have dual structures on every committee, and those dual structures reported to whomever they were influenced by. Under no circumstances would I want to ever see that again. I want a stronger admin reporting to an even stronger MEC, which will be made up of strong, responsive (to the pilots) LEC officers. Committees need to get their marching orders from the MEC, via the admininstration, or the MEC itself if the administration is filtering out the message (in which case it gets canned). So a "contact" between individual LEC officers and the committees, who work on behalf of all councils, is either fact-finding by the LEC, which is innocent enough (in which case reporting it isn't a problem), or it's an attempt to give direction (in which case reporting it is a
must). It's that simple. There is no "inertia" in monitoring access to committees that work for everyone. That's actually clean and simple.

If your problem is that the administration is not responsive to the MEC, a charge I've heard on the South side as well, then you may have a legitmate gripe. In that case, the MEC would rightfully act on it by getting a better administration. But I sure as hell don't want committe actions driven by political links between individual LEC's and officers, that shortcut the influence of other LEC's.
good post.

But you've got me scared now about pervs on here. btw, I'm not in the union and I've never been in a spelling bee. I'm 32. I used to be younger. I have no idea what my 'sign' is. Long walks on the beach are great but I hate sand.
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Old 04-10-2010, 05:40 AM
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FtB;
Yep your a pilot with issues....
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:08 AM
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Anyone,

Where do I find the DIGs. I've plumbed the depths of Dnet to no avail. Thanks in advance.

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Old 04-10-2010, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas Sink,

I'm not a proxy for anyone. I'm just calling it like I see it.

The committee thing seems especially goofy to me. Apparently, if a committee guy gets a call from a LEC rep, he must then report that contact to the MEC leadership.

?!?!

I don't even know where to start with that, if true.

Nu
Don't you think that the US Sec. of Defense, Treasury, Commerce, Transportation....whoever, notifies their boss (aka the President) whenever a someone from Congress stops by for a "chat"?

Its the same here in my opinion. The Chairman is there to execute the functions of the MEC as directed by the MEC, therefore it is only natural that the Chairman be in charge of the committees.

If LEC members don't like the direction that the committees are going, then you bring the Chairman before the MEC and "redirect" his efforts or replace him.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:16 AM
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Go to your Fleet page.

Instructor (Left side half of the way down)

DIGS-student edition on the right side.

Maybe a little off as I am only working from a rust memory, but going to your fleet page and then instructor will get you close.
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