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Old 12-08-2008, 08:52 PM
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It will be five years before you get that priveledge.. not flaming... just stating a fact.
I'm sure you meant WE get that priveledge. Welcome folks! Fraternally...Philly
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
After reading the entire opinion, I must say that it is very well thought out. I think we were all lucky to have such a thoughtful group of arbitrators craft our list.

Regardless of what any of us wanted, we should all agree that every one of us was far too close to this emotionally to ever know what was fair and equitable. I always promised myself that whatever these folks decided, it would be fair and equitable in my mind and attitude going forward. Here's to everyone else agreeing.

I look forward to flying with my new Delta brothers ASAP.

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Heh. I think our heavy (and more senior) guys made out. I'm not so heavy yet senior in a sense, and I moved up just a bit. The truth will out with the base/equiment changes. I welcome our new brothers and sisters. Let's kick ass, take names, and not resort to the traditional animosity.

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Old 12-08-2008, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
After reading the entire opinion, I must say that it is very well thought out. I think we were all lucky to have such a thoughtful group of arbitrators craft our list.

Regardless of what any of us wanted, we should all agree that every one of us was far too close to this emotionally to ever know what was fair and equitable. I always promised myself that whatever these folks decided, it would be fair and equitable in my mind and attitude going forward. Here's to everyone else agreeing.

I look forward to flying with my new Delta brothers ASAP.

Carl

Carl - Cheers to you!! Thanks for the perspective. I'm addicted to flying the 767, and will really miss it if I am displaced. BUT - easy come easy go.

Here's to making history with a united pilot group. I'm glad to be a part of this with all the good and bad that is to come.
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:58 PM
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Just to run my own little calculation, can anyone tell me what they are using for a total number of pre-merger pilots on the list for the Delta side? I know it's around 7000, but I'm just wondering if there was an official snapshot number.

Nobody seems to be overly happy nor overly devastated so far, so it can't be too bad. I guess the real test comes from that first post-SOC AE bid to see where everyone shakes out....won't that be fun?
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BalloonChaser
Keep in mind that while there are no fences for the narrow-body and most wide boy's we cannot "cross-bid" into each others planes until we are under a SOC. That would "more than likely" take upwards of 12-18 months to organize - I think your seat will be fine for a little while.

As well did you notice Item 9 on the award? That effectively "protects" each side from getting furloughed due to attritition's in the DC-9's and/or MD88 fleets. If they park DC-9's then only NWA pilots go and vice/versa if it's MD88's. That a pretty powerful clause!

FWIW, I'm still within 1% of where I was from what I can approximate!

Wow, thanks for spelling that out for me. I knew I would learn more on the forum than reading the damn legalese myself.

It is no wonder I can never understand what my wife is saying. Yeah lawyer.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Could have fooled me.

Carl
Well... aren't you a captain on one of the fenced categories?
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt
Just to run my own little calculation, can anyone tell me what they are using for a total number of pre-merger pilots on the list for the Delta side? I know it's around 7000, but I'm just wondering if there was an official snapshot number.

Nobody seems to be overly happy nor overly devastated so far, so it can't be too bad. I guess the real test comes from that first post-SOC AE bid to see where everyone shakes out....won't that be fun?
7369... from the list posted 1 Dec
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt
Just to run my own little calculation, can anyone tell me what they are using for a total number of pre-merger pilots on the list for the Delta side? I know it's around 7000, but I'm just wondering if there was an official snapshot number.

Nobody seems to be overly happy nor overly devastated so far, so it can't be too bad. I guess the real test comes from that first post-SOC AE bid to see where everyone shakes out....won't that be fun?
I don't know for sure, 7382 was what DAL had when they proposed their list and I believe current December number is 7369.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TCMC17RES

It is no wonder I can never understand what my wife is saying. Yeah lawyer.

Doesn't matter what she says, the answer is always "Yes. You're absolutely correct!"
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:16 PM
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Should anyone wake the others who drank themselves to sleep waiting on this thing? Or should I join them... hmmm... I'll join em'.
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