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Old 04-08-2010, 06:03 PM
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Can we say IROP.

Yes, planes are full, and will be fuller this summer. Just flew the last six of seven and I only had one flight where we had a seat open. It was just one, and it was way early.
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Waves, for the guy who wants to be the "historian" here, you sure are missing a lot of history.... Let me guess, you couldn't survive without a WSO...

The funding goes into all the defined benefit pension plans that exist at Delta. At Delta South, the non-contract plan (which included DAL management) was hard frozen, just like all the north plans. All of those plans were(are) significantly underfunded but survived bankruptcy due to the passage of pension reform legislation in 2006. The only pension plan terminated has been the south pilot plans (approved 9/2/06 by the bankruptcy court and accepted 12/31/06 by PBGC). The non-contract (read management) non-qualified plan was rejected during the bankruptcy, so there are no pre-petition non-qualified benefits payable.

In addition to Delta funding the pension benefit your wife actually earned, she currently receives a 2% company contribution to her 401K. She also is eligible for company 401K matching contributions of up to 5%, for a total 7% DC.
First of all, I don't even know what a WSO is, so I don't know whether to laugh or get angry. Secondly, there was a lot of sarcasim in my pension posts. Apparently that didn't come through. Yeah I'm aware of all that. Oh goodie, her pension is now worth $600. That will pay our electric bill for a month. I'm being sarcastic again. Whatever it is, it isn't worth much, and they don't make it easy to figure out.

As a historian, I must remind you that their pensions were underfunded and about a year ago, rumor had it that they were going to terminate their pensions just like they did ours. This recent news is actually good news. At least the pensions they have may live on for awhile.

By the way, I think you missed a couple of my pension posts.

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Old 04-08-2010, 06:14 PM
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I guess the rumors of the greenslips flowing like wine is indeed possible huh?

Well there should be a new thread; understanding the greenslip. It'll probably get to around 300 replies. It'd probably have devious posts meant to confuse and discourage those who might have considered a GS or rolling thunder.
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:15 PM
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Speaking of pensions, so much for the benefits of some government pensions:

NYT (today): An independent analysis of California’s three big pension funds has found a hidden shortfall of more than half a trillion dollars, several times the amount reported by the funds and more than six times the value of the state’s outstanding bonds.

Still the best pension, I think if you serve in congress 7 years then you get your salary for the rest of your life, which is around $170K right now. Maybe we should all run for congress.
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:18 PM
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Someone once told me that SWA's pilots had to fly in the Rose mode and could not use map mode because not all of their cockpits had FMS. Any truth to this?
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:25 PM
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I have flown both the MD-11 and the MD-90/88. That upgrade mod would be awesome. Looks like a simplistic version of the 11. I would be surprised to see it happen, but it sure would be nice. Probably still cheaper in the long run than any new replacements, but other than standardization, what we be the reason for doing the mods?
Heyas Waves,

The 717 cockpit is essentially the MD-11, including the FMS, grafted on to a DC-9.

717 would be a great bird...too bad there aren't any available. 118 including a decent business class.

FWIW, all of the FNWA 757s run the Pegasus software, some just don't have GPS. But they all have been modded for the center fuel tank (run them to zero), and they all have the "smart bleed" mod on the APU.

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Old 04-08-2010, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Waves
Someone once told me that SWA's pilots had to fly in the Rose mode and could not use map mode because not all of their cockpits had FMS. Any truth to this?
If you look online they have pics with FMS' in them, including the analog 300s.

I personally think nothing is more hideous 5 big screens and having it draw analog instruments. It works, it just looks hideous. Tapes are where its at.

Peace out.

Southwest 73NG, same as Continental Airlines cockpit screen arangement:
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

I was told about a year ago that they were working on a presentation to the BOD for the 767/757 retro fit. It was on or near the two year desired ROI, so they were fairly bullish on its prospects.

It was presented to the board and shot down.
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:37 PM
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CLAMPER!

I gotta say something about that guy Clamp, and I can sum it all up in just one word: courage, dedication, daring, pride, pluck, spirit, grit, metal, and G-U-T-S, guts! Why, Clamp has got more guts in his little finger than most of us have in out large intestine, including the colon!
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
If you look online they have pics with FMS' in them, including the analog 300s.

I personally think nothing is more hideous 5 big screens and having it draw analog instruments. It works, it just looks hideous. Tapes are where its at.

Peace out.

Southwest 73NG, same as Continental Airlines cockpit screen arangement:
Thanks, yeah I like our 737 display better. Having thought about that question, that was probably 10 or 15 years ago. Where does time go? I still learned something though. Thanks.

The MD-11 display was almost identical to our 737's. The biggest difference was it also had the AOA, and smaller numbers on the tape.
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