Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-08-2008, 07:35 PM
#3321
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
I'm about the same % I am currently. What's this pull in pull out stuff? is there a dynamic for the nwa retirements?
12-08-2008, 07:54 PM
#3322
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
My seniority is relatively intact. My question, for the cockpit lawyers, is that the way I read this the 777, potential 787 and 747 guys are fenced. The rest of us are not. ACL, is that a correct read?
12-08-2008, 07:58 PM
#3323
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
THis is correct buzzpat, ive gone over it now... only those slots are protected/fenced. Most dal guys are at the same or slightly higher relative % than current after some quick spot checking.
12-08-2008, 07:59 PM
#3324
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: C-17A
Posts: 56
What changes will this cause in Delta's future plans?
12-08-2008, 08:08 PM
#3325
seeing the large hubs...
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 73N A
Posts: 3,747
I'm on my cellphone in LHR and can't read the actual award - can someone say what the fences are and how long they last?
Thanks!
Thanks!
12-08-2008, 08:10 PM
#3326
Doesn't Get Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,598
I'm up .017% from the pre-merger list, can't get much closer than that. I'm glad they put the DC-9 FO's in with us, and at least until we get an SOC, looks like any furloughs will come from the pre-merger group that brought the airplanes. Only fence is for ther 747, 787, and 777. Five years from date of SOC. For those not privy to the info:
Category and class integration.
Category 1: Widebody CA
Category 2: Widebody FO
Category 3: Narrowbody CA
Category 4: Narrowbody FO
They used DALPA's tool of pull and plug to account for the NWA retirements. 274 guys were pulled and plugged which was way more than DALPA wanted and a little less than NWALPA would have liked. No dynamic approach like NWA guys proposed.
Looks like this thing went strongly in favor of the DALPA proposal.
Category and class integration.
Category 1: Widebody CA
Category 2: Widebody FO
Category 3: Narrowbody CA
Category 4: Narrowbody FO
They used DALPA's tool of pull and plug to account for the NWA retirements. 274 guys were pulled and plugged which was way more than DALPA wanted and a little less than NWALPA would have liked. No dynamic approach like NWA guys proposed.
Looks like this thing went strongly in favor of the DALPA proposal.
12-08-2008, 08:11 PM
#3327
looking for underboob
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: NYC 7ER LCA
Posts: 902
12-08-2008, 08:19 PM
#3328
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Left seat of a little plane
Posts: 2,431
I'm up .017% from the pre-merger list, can't get much closer than that. I'm glad they put the DC-9 FO's in with us, and at least until we get an SOC, looks like any furloughs will come from the pre-merger group that brought the airplanes. Only fence is for ther 747, 787, and 777. Five years from date of SOC. For those not privy to the info:
Category and class integration.
Category 1: Widebody CA
Category 2: Widebody FO
Category 3: Narrowbody CA
Category 4: Narrowbody FO
They used DALPA's tool of pull and plug to account for the NWA retirements. 274 guys were pulled and plugged which was way more than DALPA wanted and a little less than NWALPA would have liked. No dynamic approach like NWA guys proposed.
Looks like this thing went strongly in favor of the DALPA proposal.
Category and class integration.
Category 1: Widebody CA
Category 2: Widebody FO
Category 3: Narrowbody CA
Category 4: Narrowbody FO
They used DALPA's tool of pull and plug to account for the NWA retirements. 274 guys were pulled and plugged which was way more than DALPA wanted and a little less than NWALPA would have liked. No dynamic approach like NWA guys proposed.
Looks like this thing went strongly in favor of the DALPA proposal.
I'm not complaining. What is 2% between friends? I ended up with where I felt was "fair," the NWA guys got a little top-heavy acknowledgment due to their heavier attrition (in the short term at least) and the fences were minimal.
I HOPE that there actually might not be a lot of gnashing of teeth with this award.
Regardless of that, and notwithstanding some of the namecalling (some by me, though not much) our two pilot groups will probably be held up as a model of the right way to approach the right merger.
Just weeks after DCC, we have one pilot group, one contract, and one seniority list. AAA/AWA can only dream of that.
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