Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Without getting in the middle of an argument I have no interest in, and without standing in the way of what is otherwise a very convincing post, I have some reservations about some of your argument:
You seem to be stating that our piece of the pie is somehow determined after the other "essentials" eat at revenue. While I agree with the idea that funds available for the company's expense are finite in the long-term, I certainly hope you're not suggesting we patiently wait in line to see what might be left for us.
I also hope you don't somehow suggest that it is Mangement's prerogative to determine what is appropriate as a total pilot expense. It may have worked for the company in front of Prudence, and with a semi-cooperative effort in front of the Creditors' Committee, but never again do I want to see any semblance of agreement between the company and the union as to what a pilot contract should righftully cost.
This isn't just about deciding how the morcels are distributed among us, but also about carving out a large enough slice that we can subsist on. The size of that slice is not determined solely by a rational, businesslike, yet passive approach. It is the result of grabbing enough, upfront, and letting the other participants (vendors, management, other employees) figure out how to make do with the rest.
I don't fault APA for being aggressive, and for making arguments about what they should rightly be paid. I only fault them for letting their emotions cloud their strategy. The resulting tactics, of course...
You seem to be stating that our piece of the pie is somehow determined after the other "essentials" eat at revenue. While I agree with the idea that funds available for the company's expense are finite in the long-term, I certainly hope you're not suggesting we patiently wait in line to see what might be left for us.
I also hope you don't somehow suggest that it is Mangement's prerogative to determine what is appropriate as a total pilot expense. It may have worked for the company in front of Prudence, and with a semi-cooperative effort in front of the Creditors' Committee, but never again do I want to see any semblance of agreement between the company and the union as to what a pilot contract should righftully cost.
This isn't just about deciding how the morcels are distributed among us, but also about carving out a large enough slice that we can subsist on. The size of that slice is not determined solely by a rational, businesslike, yet passive approach. It is the result of grabbing enough, upfront, and letting the other participants (vendors, management, other employees) figure out how to make do with the rest.
I don't fault APA for being aggressive, and for making arguments about what they should rightly be paid. I only fault them for letting their emotions cloud their strategy. The resulting tactics, of course...
I think our negotiators will figure out how much the company can afford and then ask for more but settle as close to 100% as possible.In 30 plus years of this I know that when the company does well I do well but when the company stumbles I take serious gas (loss of pension,downgrades,pay cuts etc.). In short we need to get every dime available and absolutely no more scope givebacks, period !
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You don't need to be that resourceful. Much of it is publicly disclosed in the quarterly filings and 10-K available on Delta.com, or from industry conferences such as the March 9 JP Morgan transportation conference (it's posted on Delta.com as well).
Just glancing at the Annual Report, it appears that Delta has hedged 20% of our fuel for 2010. At $80 a barrel, we make a bit of money off the hedges. The higher the price rises, the more we make off the hedging.
Looks like Delta was guessing that oil would be average $77 a barrel for 2010.
from the latest Annual report.
Looks like Delta was guessing that oil would be average $77 a barrel for 2010.
from the latest Annual report.
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I agree that RA and Co are stating no 100 seat aircraft, the MD-90 is the DC-9 replacement. Their actions mimic their words. The do not like the C-Series for some reason, and are not in love with the 195. Old Technology as they call it.
There is always going to be a gap between the largest DCI jet and the smallest mainline jet. I would like to see a 120~ seat airframe here as it would work quite well in our network. I know the 319 fits that billet but I was referring to a clean sheet design in that seat range.
There is always going to be a gap between the largest DCI jet and the smallest mainline jet. I would like to see a 120~ seat airframe here as it would work quite well in our network. I know the 319 fits that billet but I was referring to a clean sheet design in that seat range.
Doesn't Republic own a bunch of dangling fruit, i.e. slots into DCA & LGA?
I hope this is not true. Please Hold Your Ground on this.
TYG
Indeed RJET owns a lot of LCC's gates in LGA.
RJET has its share of major issues, and labor is the least of them. If they are around in 2015, yep they have 15 years of exclusivity on the maintenance of those GTF's and that will be a source of good income as Airbus and Boeing are more than likely going to hang those off their narrow bodies until they can make a next gen narrow body with 20-25% more efficiency
RJET has its share of major issues, and labor is the least of them. If they are around in 2015, yep they have 15 years of exclusivity on the maintenance of those GTF's and that will be a source of good income as Airbus and Boeing are more than likely going to hang those off their narrow bodies until they can make a next gen narrow body with 20-25% more efficiency
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Honestly, no i havent called them yet. I was going to see if I was going about this the right way by trying to personal drop 1st. If I need to I will call them or go thru the chief pilot if necessary. I'm a MEM DC-9 guy. We have about 15 reserves on every day but Icrew says we only need 2 or 3 so I'm hoping they will approve it.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the info!
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FYI for those going in to the region.
BISHKEK, Kyrgyzstan (AP) — Thousands of protesters furious over corruption and spiraling utility bills seized internal security headquarters, a state TV channel and other levers of power in Kyrgyzstan on Wednesday after government forces fatally shot dozens of demonstrators and wounded hundreds.
A revolution in the Central Asian nation was proclaimed by leaders of the opposition, who have called for the closure of a U.S. air base outside the capital that serves as a key transit point for supplies essential to the war in nearby Afghanistan.
The U.S. State Department said transport operations at the Manas base were "functioning normally."
This mountainous former Soviet republic erupted when protesters called onto the streets by opposition parties for a day of protest began storming government buildings in the capital, Bishkek, and clashed with police. Groups of elite officers opened fire.
The Health Ministry said 40 people had died and more than 400 were wounded. Opposition activist Toktoim Umetalieva said at least 100 people had died after police opened fire with live ammunition.
Crowds of demonstrators took control of the state TV building and looted it, then marched toward the Interior Ministry, according to Associated Press reporters on the scene, before changing direction and attacking a national security building nearby. They were repelled by security forces loyal to President Kurmanbek Bakiyev, whose whereabouts were a mystery.
The opposition and its supporters appeared to gain the upper hand after nightfall, and an Associated Press reporter saw opposition leader Keneshbek Duishebayev sitting in the office of the chief of the National Security Agency, Kyrgyzstan's successor to the Soviet KGB. Duishebayev issued orders on the phone to people Duishebayev said were security agents. He also gave orders to a uniformed special forces commando.
Duishebayev told the AP that "we have created units to restore order" on the streets. He said Bakiyev may have fled to Osh, the country's second-largest city, where he has a home.
Since coming to power in 2005 on a wave of street protests known as the Tulip Revolution, Bakiyev had ensured a measure of stability, but many observers say he has done so at the expense of democratic standards while enriching himself and his family. He gave his relatives, including his son, top government and economic posts and faced the same accusations of corruption and cronyism that led to the ouster of his predecessor.
Over the past two years, Kyrgyz authorities have clamped down on free media, and opposition activists say they have routinely been subjected to physical intimidation and targeted by politically motivated criminal investigations.
Many of the opposition leaders once were allies of Bakiyev, in some cases former ministers or diplomats.
The anti-government forces in Kyrgyzstan were in disarray until recent widespread anger over the 200 percent hike in electricity and heating gas bills helped unify them and galvanize support. Many of Wednesday's protesters were men from poor villages, including some who had come to the capital to live and work on construction sites. Already struggling, they were outraged by the utility bill hikes and were easily stirred up by opposition claims of corruption in Bakiyev's circle. Kyrgyz are secular Muslims, and Islamist sentiments do not appear to have played a role in the uprising.
U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the U.S. deplored the violence and urged all to respect the rule of law.
"We identify with the concerns that the people of Kyrgyzstan have about their future," but those concerns should be dealt with peacefully, Crowley said, adding that the Manas base was operating normally.
Opposition leaders have said they want it shuttered because it could put their country at risk if the United States becomes involved in a military conflict with Iran. Closing it would also please Russia, which has opposed the basing of U.S. troops on former Soviet turf.
Prime Minister Daniyar Usenov on Wednesday morning accused the opposition of having Russia's support. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin denied any involvement in the uprising.
"Russian officials have absolutely nothing to do with this," he said in the city of Smolensk. "Personally, these events caught me completely by surprise."
The unrest began Tuesday in the western city of Talas, where demonstrators stormed a government office and held a governor hostage, prompting a government warning of "severe" repercussions for continuing unrest.
The opposition called nationwide protests for the next day and police in Bishkek at first used rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons and concussion grenades to try to control crowds of young men clad in black who were chasing police officers, beating them up and seizing their arms, trucks and armored personnel carriers.
Some protesters then tried to use a personnel carrier to ram the gates of the government headquarters, known as the White House. Many of the protesters threw rocks, but about a half dozen young protesters shot Kalashnikovs into the air from the square in front of the building.
"We don't want this rotten power!" protester Makhsat Talbadyev said, as he and others in Bishkek waved opposition party flags and chanted: "Bakiyev out!"
Some 200 elite police began firing, pushing the crowd back from the government headquarters.
Protesters set fire to the prosecutor general's office in the city center, and a giant plume of black smoke billowed into the sky.
Police often appeared outnumbered and overwhelmed, sometimes retreating when faced with protesters — including many armed with rocks and others who appeared to be carrying automatic weapons as they marched.
At one point police fled across the square from a large group of stone-throwing demonstrators. In another street, a small group of police took refuge behind their shields as one of their colleagues lay unconscious at their feet, his face smeared with blood.
In another area, two policemen, their faces bloodstained, tried to escape as a protester aimed kicks in their direction.
Groups of protesters then set out across Bishkek, attacking more government buildings.
An Associated Press reporter saw dozens of wounded demonstrators lining the corridors of one of Bishkek's main hospitals, a block away from the main square, where doctors were unable to cope with the flood of patients. Weeping nurses slumped over dead bodies, doctors shouted at each other and the floors were covered in blood.
Opposition activist Shamil Murat told the AP that Interior Minister Moldomusa Kongatiyev had been beaten to death by a mob in Talas. The respected Fergana.ru Web site reported later that Kongatiyev was badly beaten but had not died, saying its own reporter had witnessed the beating.
Unrest also broke out for a second day in Talas and spread to the southern city of Naryn.
Another 10,000 protesters stormed police headquarters in Talas. The protesters beat up the interior minister, Kongatiyev, and forced him to call his subordinates in Bishkek and call off the crackdown on protesters, a correspondent for the local affiliate of U.S.-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty said.
Some 5,000 protesters seized Naryn's regional administration building and installed a new governor, opposition activist Adilet Eshenov said. At least four people were wounded in clashes, including the regional police chief, he said.
In the eastern region of Issyk-Kul, protesters seized the regional administration building and declared they installed their governor, the Ata-Meken opposition party said on its Web site.
At least 10 opposition leaders were arrested overnight and were being held at the security headquarters in Bishkek, opposition lawmaker Irina Karamushkina said.
At least one of them, Temir Sariyev, was freed Wednesday by protesters.
The leaders of the four other former Soviet republics in the region were certain to be watching events in Bishkek with concern, but the authoritarian, and in some cases dictatorial, natures of their governments would likely allow them to squash any attempts to challenge their rules.
A revolution in the Central Asian nation was proclaimed by leaders of the opposition, who have called for the closure of a U.S. air base outside the capital that serves as a key transit point for supplies essential to the war in nearby Afghanistan.
The U.S. State Department said transport operations at the Manas base were "functioning normally."
This mountainous former Soviet republic erupted when protesters called onto the streets by opposition parties for a day of protest began storming government buildings in the capital, Bishkek, and clashed with police. Groups of elite officers opened fire.
The Health Ministry said 40 people had died and more than 400 were wounded. Opposition activist Toktoim Umetalieva said at least 100 people had died after police opened fire with live ammunition.
Crowds of demonstrators took control of the state TV building and looted it, then marched toward the Interior Ministry, according to Associated Press reporters on the scene, before changing direction and attacking a national security building nearby. They were repelled by security forces loyal to President Kurmanbek Bakiyev, whose whereabouts were a mystery.
The opposition and its supporters appeared to gain the upper hand after nightfall, and an Associated Press reporter saw opposition leader Keneshbek Duishebayev sitting in the office of the chief of the National Security Agency, Kyrgyzstan's successor to the Soviet KGB. Duishebayev issued orders on the phone to people Duishebayev said were security agents. He also gave orders to a uniformed special forces commando.
Duishebayev told the AP that "we have created units to restore order" on the streets. He said Bakiyev may have fled to Osh, the country's second-largest city, where he has a home.
Since coming to power in 2005 on a wave of street protests known as the Tulip Revolution, Bakiyev had ensured a measure of stability, but many observers say he has done so at the expense of democratic standards while enriching himself and his family. He gave his relatives, including his son, top government and economic posts and faced the same accusations of corruption and cronyism that led to the ouster of his predecessor.
Over the past two years, Kyrgyz authorities have clamped down on free media, and opposition activists say they have routinely been subjected to physical intimidation and targeted by politically motivated criminal investigations.
Many of the opposition leaders once were allies of Bakiyev, in some cases former ministers or diplomats.
The anti-government forces in Kyrgyzstan were in disarray until recent widespread anger over the 200 percent hike in electricity and heating gas bills helped unify them and galvanize support. Many of Wednesday's protesters were men from poor villages, including some who had come to the capital to live and work on construction sites. Already struggling, they were outraged by the utility bill hikes and were easily stirred up by opposition claims of corruption in Bakiyev's circle. Kyrgyz are secular Muslims, and Islamist sentiments do not appear to have played a role in the uprising.
U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the U.S. deplored the violence and urged all to respect the rule of law.
"We identify with the concerns that the people of Kyrgyzstan have about their future," but those concerns should be dealt with peacefully, Crowley said, adding that the Manas base was operating normally.
Opposition leaders have said they want it shuttered because it could put their country at risk if the United States becomes involved in a military conflict with Iran. Closing it would also please Russia, which has opposed the basing of U.S. troops on former Soviet turf.
Prime Minister Daniyar Usenov on Wednesday morning accused the opposition of having Russia's support. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin denied any involvement in the uprising.
"Russian officials have absolutely nothing to do with this," he said in the city of Smolensk. "Personally, these events caught me completely by surprise."
The unrest began Tuesday in the western city of Talas, where demonstrators stormed a government office and held a governor hostage, prompting a government warning of "severe" repercussions for continuing unrest.
The opposition called nationwide protests for the next day and police in Bishkek at first used rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons and concussion grenades to try to control crowds of young men clad in black who were chasing police officers, beating them up and seizing their arms, trucks and armored personnel carriers.
Some protesters then tried to use a personnel carrier to ram the gates of the government headquarters, known as the White House. Many of the protesters threw rocks, but about a half dozen young protesters shot Kalashnikovs into the air from the square in front of the building.
"We don't want this rotten power!" protester Makhsat Talbadyev said, as he and others in Bishkek waved opposition party flags and chanted: "Bakiyev out!"
Some 200 elite police began firing, pushing the crowd back from the government headquarters.
Protesters set fire to the prosecutor general's office in the city center, and a giant plume of black smoke billowed into the sky.
Police often appeared outnumbered and overwhelmed, sometimes retreating when faced with protesters — including many armed with rocks and others who appeared to be carrying automatic weapons as they marched.
At one point police fled across the square from a large group of stone-throwing demonstrators. In another street, a small group of police took refuge behind their shields as one of their colleagues lay unconscious at their feet, his face smeared with blood.
In another area, two policemen, their faces bloodstained, tried to escape as a protester aimed kicks in their direction.
Groups of protesters then set out across Bishkek, attacking more government buildings.
An Associated Press reporter saw dozens of wounded demonstrators lining the corridors of one of Bishkek's main hospitals, a block away from the main square, where doctors were unable to cope with the flood of patients. Weeping nurses slumped over dead bodies, doctors shouted at each other and the floors were covered in blood.
Opposition activist Shamil Murat told the AP that Interior Minister Moldomusa Kongatiyev had been beaten to death by a mob in Talas. The respected Fergana.ru Web site reported later that Kongatiyev was badly beaten but had not died, saying its own reporter had witnessed the beating.
Unrest also broke out for a second day in Talas and spread to the southern city of Naryn.
Another 10,000 protesters stormed police headquarters in Talas. The protesters beat up the interior minister, Kongatiyev, and forced him to call his subordinates in Bishkek and call off the crackdown on protesters, a correspondent for the local affiliate of U.S.-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty said.
Some 5,000 protesters seized Naryn's regional administration building and installed a new governor, opposition activist Adilet Eshenov said. At least four people were wounded in clashes, including the regional police chief, he said.
In the eastern region of Issyk-Kul, protesters seized the regional administration building and declared they installed their governor, the Ata-Meken opposition party said on its Web site.
At least 10 opposition leaders were arrested overnight and were being held at the security headquarters in Bishkek, opposition lawmaker Irina Karamushkina said.
At least one of them, Temir Sariyev, was freed Wednesday by protesters.
The leaders of the four other former Soviet republics in the region were certain to be watching events in Bishkek with concern, but the authoritarian, and in some cases dictatorial, natures of their governments would likely allow them to squash any attempts to challenge their rules.
I had an ATR type, 2000 in type, went & saw them at the Air Inc Job fair, and 3 letters of rec from ASA Capt's and couldn't buy an interview at ASA...
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When does more sick time get added to our bank? Also, is it 240 hours in a rolling 3 year period at 100%?
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