Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-05-2010, 06:29 PM
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04-05-2010, 06:30 PM
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Commuting is a choice. Sometimes the lesser of two evils, but still a choice.
If enough pilots choose to commute, then it becomes something we should work to make easier. The amount of energy or negotiating capital we expend, and the definition of "easier", are always going to be a point of contention.
But we all like beer, right?
If enough pilots choose to commute, then it becomes something we should work to make easier. The amount of energy or negotiating capital we expend, and the definition of "easier", are always going to be a point of contention.
But we all like beer, right?
04-05-2010, 06:30 PM
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Sorry, hoser, you're wrong. ATL is NOT more senior, SLC and LAX only marginally so. Bottom line: no one hired prior to 2007 got kicked out of those bases, except by choice. And if anyone hired in 2007+ bought a house that is now $100,000 under water, they were a fool.
Hmmmm.......if ATL is not more senior why am I moving backwards????? My math says the shrinkage is not from the cold weather.....its from more peeps above me. Guess when I get bumped it will be of my own free will and I'll be forced to commute for awhile.
As far as SLC goes, just ask all the guys who used to hold the maddog there. Lots of folks just got airbussed to a new base.
I like Waves idea of making gobbs of money, living in a mansion on a nude beach on a tropical island full of hotties. Oh, and working a couple trips a month. Enjoy your trip.
04-05-2010, 06:30 PM
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I once had a Captain try to convince me that a “National Seniority List” was something we should all strive for. I thought he was absolutely insane. I still have major reservations about such a list. There are too many differences in hiring criteria to placate my agreement on the subject. What say you?
I've got nothing better to do.
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04-05-2010, 06:32 PM
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04-05-2010, 06:36 PM
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There's no other way to put it - if the cost of flying 1 MD88 is higher than the cost of two CRJ-700s, Delta management is duty-bound to the shareholders to replace the MD88.
In my opinion, Delta ALPA should be focused on making the company, the FAA, Congress and the public value our experience, our training and our customer service.
04-05-2010, 06:37 PM
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Beer is the one thing that united over 90% of Skywest pilots. A few years ago the company changed the bottle-throttle from 8 to 12 hours. Next day.....50+ sick calls due to the new policy. Management (ASA's current boss) was begging guys to go to work. Pilots refused until he reversed the policy in writing. "Sorry boss, I had a glass of wine at dinner. Can't work my 7am flight." The student council actually had its biggest voter turnout when this issue was brought up. The policy was reversed. I guess ALPA should've given out more beer during the union drives!!!!
04-05-2010, 06:39 PM
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I think the concepts he talked about were possible 20 years ago, when the cost per ticket was much higher than it is now - high ticket prices paid for all that "give" in the pilot contract. The problem these days is that if we raise the total cost of a Delta pilot much higher than other pilots - we (the DALPA pilot group) lose jobs. Whether it's SWA coming into our market, or DCI getting the flying or Korean Air - there is always someone else who will do Delta flying for just a little bit less.
There's no other way to put it - if the cost of flying 1 MD88 is higher than the cost of two CRJ-700s, Delta management is duty-bound to the shareholders to replace the MD88.
In my opinion, Delta ALPA should be focused on making the company, the FAA, Congress and the public value our experience, our training and our customer service.
There's no other way to put it - if the cost of flying 1 MD88 is higher than the cost of two CRJ-700s, Delta management is duty-bound to the shareholders to replace the MD88.
In my opinion, Delta ALPA should be focused on making the company, the FAA, Congress and the public value our experience, our training and our customer service.
My, I believe the Stockholm Syndrome has set in.
04-05-2010, 06:39 PM
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Everything is negotiable. I for one, prefer to bargain from strength, real or perceived, than depend on the goodness of the company's heart for my paycheck.
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04-05-2010, 06:51 PM
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Gnewt, I can't stand it anymore. Why do you, or the countless others, think there will be MORE commuters in the future? There should be FEWER. Here's why: previously a DAL-S pilot had only 5 cities he could live in and not commute -- now he has 9. Similarly, previously a DAL-N pilot had only 5 cities he could live in and not commute -- now HE has 9. So more choices for ALL. More choices = less commuting.
What am I missing? And if you come up with the excuse that, because all the equipment is moving around to different bases, and people are chasing equipment, then I rest my case - commuting is a CHOICE!
What am I missing? And if you come up with the excuse that, because all the equipment is moving around to different bases, and people are chasing equipment, then I rest my case - commuting is a CHOICE!
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