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03-30-2010, 07:40 AM
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At Mesaba, the union has just proposed the senior pilots forgo their 2010 pay raises to give the money to the junior pilots. This is not section 6 negotiations, this is the union trying to raise the living standard of the first officers.
Something to watch, and something to think about on the topic of scope recapture.
Something to watch, and something to think about on the topic of scope recapture.
03-30-2010, 07:48 AM
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At Mesaba, the union has just proposed the senior pilots forgo their 2010 pay raises to give the money to the junior pilots. This is not section 6 negotiations, this is the union trying to raise the living standard of the first officers.
Something to watch, and something to think about on the topic of scope recapture.
Something to watch, and something to think about on the topic of scope recapture.
And what's this got to do with scope?
03-30-2010, 07:54 AM
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What's funny is management already tried to raise their pay, but the senior pilots told management they wouldn't consider it if it wasn't an equal percentage pay raise for them too. Now the union is trying to force them to raise the rates for the junior guys. This has nothing to do with management, the union sets the pay rates of the pilots.
03-30-2010, 07:56 AM
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03-30-2010, 07:58 AM
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Waves, the current policy is the nose must be "trending" down before engaging the TRs, They instituted this in October and had a scrape within a week or two (or so the story goes). However, it seems to be working ok now.
BTW, welcome aboard from one Naval Aviator to another!
BTW, welcome aboard from one Naval Aviator to another!
Thanks for the welcome.
03-30-2010, 07:58 AM
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What's funny is management already tried to raise their pay, but the senior pilots told management they wouldn't consider it if it wasn't an equal percentage pay raise for them too. Now the union is trying to force them to raise the rates for the junior guys. This has nothing to do with management, the union sets the pay rates of the pilots.
03-30-2010, 08:12 AM
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03-30-2010, 08:14 AM
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Hey you 9 denizens out there. Your arguments remind me of when the 141 was scheduled for retirement and the 17 was not the plane it is today. One of the problems of the 141 was it was so old and used and the tech was so old. For example the relays were made of ceramic and were irreplaceable. The ceramic had become so brittle that any mx on them and they crumbled.
Are there any gotchas like that in the 9? We've heard about the bulkhead fix, the avionics, and the hours/cycles limit but are there any other basic mx issues that would force them into retirement? Not trying to denigrate the old bird as I loved the Star Lizard. I saw 241 Lizards replaced by 150 Budas. Same result, not as many jobs or destinations could be served.
Are there any gotchas like that in the 9? We've heard about the bulkhead fix, the avionics, and the hours/cycles limit but are there any other basic mx issues that would force them into retirement? Not trying to denigrate the old bird as I loved the Star Lizard. I saw 241 Lizards replaced by 150 Budas. Same result, not as many jobs or destinations could be served.
03-30-2010, 08:16 AM
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Thanks for the condescending insult! My wife's IQ is probably higher than anyone on this thread even if she does happen to own two cats. Ha By the way, DAL had an FA hiring interview session in Denver in November. They had over 4000 applicants. They had another session in December in Utah and once again had over 4000 applicants. They hired 10 FA's from over 4000 applicants. Delta no longer gives them a ticket to get to the interview. They must arrange and pay for their own travel. Would you say that is a job that no one wants? By the way, my wife is also a pilot, but she isn't condescending and narrow minded like many of the posts I've seen here. I'm just saying................
03-30-2010, 08:27 AM
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Heyas FTB,
Bah! You had the wussy electronic pressurization system. What a bunch of slackers. Real men used the old 707 style pneumatic pressurization system.
Trival contest. In the above picture, next to the aft cabin zone temp, someone has hand written DNFW. Props to the person who can tell me what it means, and why.
And for Sat: Super wasn't kidding about the -9. It has traditionally had the highest dispatch reliability out of all the aircraft. The troublesome stuff that bugged the -9 in the past has been replaced with all new systems: Battery charger, gear position indicators, pressurization (new one is slick), radar etc, etc. The -9 is just an energizer bunny, and if it weren't for aft bulkhead mod, we'd probably re-engine them and fly them for another 40.
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Bah! You had the wussy electronic pressurization system. What a bunch of slackers. Real men used the old 707 style pneumatic pressurization system.
Trival contest. In the above picture, next to the aft cabin zone temp, someone has hand written DNFW. Props to the person who can tell me what it means, and why.
And for Sat: Super wasn't kidding about the -9. It has traditionally had the highest dispatch reliability out of all the aircraft. The troublesome stuff that bugged the -9 in the past has been replaced with all new systems: Battery charger, gear position indicators, pressurization (new one is slick), radar etc, etc. The -9 is just an energizer bunny, and if it weren't for aft bulkhead mod, we'd probably re-engine them and fly them for another 40.
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