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Old 03-29-2010, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chente
I dont like how FA's can have a potentially huge impact on our careers. I'm not very eloquent, but what I'm trying to say is that MOST FA's are uneducated and basically raised their hand to get a job "flying" for Delta.....yet they can have a huge impact on our careers. Just sayin
This is a sticky one isn't it? In a good world we'd stand up together for any part of our employee group and say until thats resolved we're not flying your planes. In the real world, I'm with you in that I don't like that a subset of FAs who have very little devotion or skin in the game could indeed destroy it for everyone else. I guess this is why you had to be property owner to vote, it had its advantages. Probably could've done without some of the other clauses though. Just sayin.

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The AFA is playing the waiting game on the new RLA regs. If I were a betting man, if they get the new card rules, they will probably win.

As for the MD-80 mods, I don't doubt it. I thought I heard something to the effect that they annouced a program to do an aerodynamic cleanup program on the DC-9-50s, including a whole host of things such as flap/slat/control surface seals, wing root fairings...the works. Sort of a LoPresti Speed Mod for DC-9s. If so, then they are planning on them being around a while.

Shame about the -30s/-40s. Maybe when SWA buys AirTran and parts them out, the 717s will get a new home at DAL. Ahhh, the irony in that....

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I do think we should do everything we can to keep the 30s and 40s, I don't know what the B/E is or the risks of increased fuel costs but it sucks to get rid of mainline equipment.

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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
That reminded me of the story we've all heard. "Flight attendant training is 4 weeks and pilot training is 5 weeks? Wow, I should stay one more week so I can be a pilot!!!
When I was a new hire at Coex I was riding the bus from our training center to the hotel. We shared the bus with new hire FAs and I'll never forget this lady asking me how long training was and I said 2 months, she said theirs was 3 months and topped it off with a "so our training is harder than yours." Sweet.

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My wife was in ATL and the background noise prevented a clear conversation. I think what you are saying is closer to what she was trying to tell me. Considering we're all DAL pilots now, who exactly are they going to fly with? Seems like they're shooting themselves in the foot. Additionally, now that RA is moving aircraft around like a shell game, how would scheduling even begin to conquer those complexities? How about when DAL N and DAL S pilots are completely integrated? What then? Seems like a dumb thing to cause a huge issue over.
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:44 PM
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:54 PM
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I'm like intrigued by the Pilots View video that was under Related Videos. I didn't know we could speak in uniform on a youtube video. Its not anti-company or anything and I don't think the company would complain per se, but I didn't know we could do it. Maybe I should find my FOM.

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Forgot to bid ... I just watched it and was thinking the same thing. Wow, these guys have some serious testicular fortitude. Not only are they speaking in uniform, but they did it on behalf of Delta pilots -- a huge no-no!
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How do you know she had a fake green card? Ignorance at it's best.
I agree 100% with you on the fact that there is work out there if you want it, I'm not sticking up for her, it just annoys the $hit out of me when people make broad statements like the one you did. "She speaks spanish so she must be illegal"...."She must have a fake green card since she speaks spanish"....You get me?


Originally Posted by Chente
I dont like how FA's can have a potentially huge impact on our careers. I'm not very eloquent, but what I'm trying to say is that MOST FA's are uneducated and basically raised their hand to get a job "flying" for Delta.....yet they can have a huge impact on our careers. Just sayin


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Hmmm. I did not know that! Thanks for the info. The thing that gets me is that when I look at the guy (Or gal) next to me in the cockpit, I KNOW what they did to get in that seat....FA's...there is no requirements....for the most part. Couple that with the fact that they can potentially sink an airline due to work stoppages, strikes, etc etc, makes me worried. I worked my a$$ off to get hired by my dream airline which is Delta....I sure as hell dont want an FA bringing my company down.
I agree. That's why I only said you were wrong in part. Most of the traveling public make the false assumption that all pilots and all airlines are created equal. Most pilots including many DAL pilots also make a similar false assumption that all FA's are created equal. They aren't.
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Too funny! Even though my type rating says DC-9, I've never even touched the controls of one. Powering back is scary. I've only seen one DAL jet ever do it considering it is forbidden. We use tugs, my son. HA
Well, that's really too bad. But I guess we need sweater knitters, potato peelers, and bus boys, too. Here, you may hold my coat.

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I'm like intrigued by the Pilots View video that was under Related Videos. I didn't know we could speak in uniform on a youtube video. Its not anti-company or anything and I don't think the company would complain per se, but I didn't know we could do it. Maybe I should find my FOM.

Maybe I should find my flight kit.
I'm not sure where or even if it is in the FOM, but we have had at least one person fired for blogging on line in uniform. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
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Forgot to bid ... I just watched it and was thinking the same thing. Wow, these guys have some serious testicular fortitude. Not only are they speaking in uniform, but they did it on behalf of Delta pilots -- a huge no-no!
I just viewed it. Considering this is an AFA issue with ALPA guys talking about it, I don't think the company would be able to do much. I think they're pretty safe on this one.
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