Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-28-2010, 03:29 PM
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We used to get our numbers via ACARS same as now, but we used to load up the F/O as we were #3 for T/O; "...ummm ya got those numbers yet?"
I like getting the numbers now before pushback. Keeps everyones heads outside the cockpit during taxi.
Quiet cockpit approach procedures? I thought those came from DAL-S.
Before the changes we used to call out the marker, 1000' 200 to mins...100 to mins...mins. Not very quiet.
CAT2/3 were even worse with a handoff (F/O flew the airplane to minimums) then handed off the plane to the CA who was looking outside. The F/O called minimums at mimimums and the CA called landing or go-around. If landing the CA 'smacked' the F/Os hand off the throttles and landed, if no call or called go-around the F/O did a go-around.
You can imagine the 3 ring circus act in the sim when that occured....I was hoping the 1000' 500' 100 to minimums call was from your side.
Any way, I see your from SLC, if you decide to fly the A-320 you'll love it...yes even if it's not a Boeing
I like getting the numbers now before pushback. Keeps everyones heads outside the cockpit during taxi.
Quiet cockpit approach procedures? I thought those came from DAL-S.
Before the changes we used to call out the marker, 1000' 200 to mins...100 to mins...mins. Not very quiet.
CAT2/3 were even worse with a handoff (F/O flew the airplane to minimums) then handed off the plane to the CA who was looking outside. The F/O called minimums at mimimums and the CA called landing or go-around. If landing the CA 'smacked' the F/Os hand off the throttles and landed, if no call or called go-around the F/O did a go-around.
You can imagine the 3 ring circus act in the sim when that occured....I was hoping the 1000' 500' 100 to minimums call was from your side.
Any way, I see your from SLC, if you decide to fly the A-320 you'll love it...yes even if it's not a Boeing
Yeah, getting the numbers prior to pushback is definitely the way to go. Runway changes can obviously throw a monkey wrench in it, but it isn't that common.
Seriously, I thought the quiet cockpit came from u guys. We used to call out just about everything imaginable on our way down the slope. The 1000' 500' and 100' calls came from us, but we never have done any of the three ring circus change of controls thing. I know some other airlines do that too. I'm glad we didn't adopt that procedure.
If SLC shrinks anymore, I may either go to the ER in LAX, or to the SLC A320. I have never flown an Airbus, but I think the Frogs make a great machine and I am not a "Boeing or not Going" kind of guy. When we had the A315's, I had a bid in for it, but we sold them before I could get on it.
03-28-2010, 03:32 PM
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03-28-2010, 03:32 PM
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You know...that's what many DAL-N folks think DAL-S folks act like. I guess it's all preception (not truth) I know of a few F/Os and CA who think that DAL-S have animosity towards them and think that DAL-N pilots should be grateful that the widget came along.Bottom line. Every (yes every) DAL-S guy that I've had the opportunity to meet and share a few beers with have been nothing but fellow pilots with similar viewpoints on flying and fun! Brought up in different cultures? You bet. Ours has been more confrontational with management and as such we seem to view anything that management does or say with doubt. (T-SQUARE CAN VERIFY THIS
)And in the spirt of cooperation may I point out that there are no longer any NWA guys only DAL guys. If it is necessary to point out differences in culture perhaps DAL-N / DAL-S may be more appropriate.
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03-28-2010, 03:34 PM
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03-28-2010, 03:36 PM
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03-28-2010, 03:42 PM
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Hey, how many times have you DAL-N guys accidentally said to ATC, "This is Northwest 123, I mean Delta 123?" Too funny. While flying light GA sometimes a Delta call sign preface will blirt out. Ooops. OK, now for some really important issues. Why did we have to go to the ALL red insignia? We already had red in our emblem, but now the blue is gone. Somehow I feel cheated. LOL
03-28-2010, 03:43 PM
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03-28-2010, 03:55 PM
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03-28-2010, 04:00 PM
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Wasn't exactly the welcome I was looking for, but thanks just the same.
Waves,
Welcome to the Forum. If your welcome was not what you expected it is probably because we have all argued/debated/pondered a lot of the points you are now bringing up a few years ago. There was a lot of North vs. South then which has fortunately diminished over the years.
Now realizing that deal is done we have kind of closed ranks and solidified a little. There is still some angst out there, but it is minimal on these boards - which I think is a good thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of who got screwed more in the merger but it really doesn't do any good to discuss it on here.
Lets concentrate on our common enemy - our Evil Overlords, DAL management.
You know the guys who blow $500 million on fuel hedges and then expect us to start engine 3 minutes and 0 seconds prior to application of takeoff power (via x-bleed) to save $. 
Scoop
Wasn't exactly the welcome I was looking for, but thanks just the same.
Waves,
Welcome to the Forum. If your welcome was not what you expected it is probably because we have all argued/debated/pondered a lot of the points you are now bringing up a few years ago. There was a lot of North vs. South then which has fortunately diminished over the years.
Now realizing that deal is done we have kind of closed ranks and solidified a little. There is still some angst out there, but it is minimal on these boards - which I think is a good thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of who got screwed more in the merger but it really doesn't do any good to discuss it on here.
Lets concentrate on our common enemy - our Evil Overlords, DAL management.
You know the guys who blow $500 million on fuel hedges and then expect us to start engine 3 minutes and 0 seconds prior to application of takeoff power (via x-bleed) to save $. Scoop
03-28-2010, 04:09 PM
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What he said! Welcome aboard.
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