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03-22-2010, 08:46 PM
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03-23-2010, 03:54 AM
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Last round SWA required you to be typed on the 737 by the time you went to class. They called and hired pilots w/o the type and gave them six months to gain the type. So yes, it is still there.
As for the Wright Amendment, it is going away in the next four years. See below
Repeal compromise
On June 15, 2006, it was announced that American, Southwest, DFW Airport and the cities of Dallas and Fort Worth had all agreed to seek full repeal of the Wright Amendment, with several conditions. Among them: The ban on nonstop flights outside the Wright zone would stay in place until 2014; through-ticketing to domestic and foreign airports (connecting flights to long-haul destinations) would be allowed immediately; Love Field's maximum gate capacity would be lowered from 32 to 20 gates; and Love would handle only domestic flights non-stop.
The proposed compromise was opposed by jetBlue Airways and other low-fare carriers, who argued that the gate reductions at Love would harm their ability to begin service there, and by area congressmen who opposed provisions of the deal that they believed would restrict competition in passenger service at other airports within an 80-mile (130 km) radius of DFW and Love, including Collin County Regional Airport in the nearby city of McKinney. The compromise was also opposed by Love Field Terminal Partners who own the old Legend Airlines terminal. They claimed that the announcement of the compromise prevented them from selling the six gate terminal to Pinnacle Airlines who had shown interest in purchasing or leasing the gates and have several law suits to prevent the compromise's implementation.
On July 25, 2006, a leaked memorandum from an employee of the United States Department of Justice Antitrust Division raised concerns about airline competition in North Texas and urged legislators to force a renegotiation of the deal. It also stated that the removal of gates and a cap of 20 gates for the airport would violate federal anti-trust legislation. This capping of gates would affect the other airlines that might be attracted to getting gates there at Dallas Love Field airport.[2]
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison responded to the memorandum by stating "They [Justice] are not taking a position at all on the legislation... That memo did not go through the channels. And it probably was one person's view, but it's not the Justice Department's."
Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner also had some complaints about the anti-trust issues that he thought would arise from the proposed legislation.
After extensive negotiations with the House and Senate Judiciary Committees, the compromise bill passed both Houses of Congress on Friday, September 29, just before the 109th Congress adjourned for the November elections. Hutchison led the effort to pass the bill in the Senate while Rep. Kay Granger led a bipartisan Texas House coalition to see the bill through to a successful conclusion in the House. President George W. Bush signed the bill into law on October 13, 2006.[3] Southwest and American airlines then required approval from the Federal Aviation Administration to begin one-stop flights from Love Field to destinations outside the Wright limits.[4]
Even though direct connections are restricted until 2014, Southwest Airlines announced on October 17, 2006 that it would begin indirect connecting service between Love Field and 25 destinations outside the Wright zone on October 19, 2006.[5] American Airlines also made indirect connecting travel between Love Field and locations outside the Wright zone available by October 18, 2006.
Last round SWA required you to be typed on the 737 by the time you went to class. They called and hired pilots w/o the type and gave them six months to gain the type. So yes, it is still there.
As for the Wright Amendment, it is going away in the next four years. See below
Repeal compromise
On June 15, 2006, it was announced that American, Southwest, DFW Airport and the cities of Dallas and Fort Worth had all agreed to seek full repeal of the Wright Amendment, with several conditions. Among them: The ban on nonstop flights outside the Wright zone would stay in place until 2014; through-ticketing to domestic and foreign airports (connecting flights to long-haul destinations) would be allowed immediately; Love Field's maximum gate capacity would be lowered from 32 to 20 gates; and Love would handle only domestic flights non-stop.
The proposed compromise was opposed by jetBlue Airways and other low-fare carriers, who argued that the gate reductions at Love would harm their ability to begin service there, and by area congressmen who opposed provisions of the deal that they believed would restrict competition in passenger service at other airports within an 80-mile (130 km) radius of DFW and Love, including Collin County Regional Airport in the nearby city of McKinney. The compromise was also opposed by Love Field Terminal Partners who own the old Legend Airlines terminal. They claimed that the announcement of the compromise prevented them from selling the six gate terminal to Pinnacle Airlines who had shown interest in purchasing or leasing the gates and have several law suits to prevent the compromise's implementation.
On July 25, 2006, a leaked memorandum from an employee of the United States Department of Justice Antitrust Division raised concerns about airline competition in North Texas and urged legislators to force a renegotiation of the deal. It also stated that the removal of gates and a cap of 20 gates for the airport would violate federal anti-trust legislation. This capping of gates would affect the other airlines that might be attracted to getting gates there at Dallas Love Field airport.[2]
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison responded to the memorandum by stating "They [Justice] are not taking a position at all on the legislation... That memo did not go through the channels. And it probably was one person's view, but it's not the Justice Department's."
Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner also had some complaints about the anti-trust issues that he thought would arise from the proposed legislation.
After extensive negotiations with the House and Senate Judiciary Committees, the compromise bill passed both Houses of Congress on Friday, September 29, just before the 109th Congress adjourned for the November elections. Hutchison led the effort to pass the bill in the Senate while Rep. Kay Granger led a bipartisan Texas House coalition to see the bill through to a successful conclusion in the House. President George W. Bush signed the bill into law on October 13, 2006.[3] Southwest and American airlines then required approval from the Federal Aviation Administration to begin one-stop flights from Love Field to destinations outside the Wright limits.[4]
Even though direct connections are restricted until 2014, Southwest Airlines announced on October 17, 2006 that it would begin indirect connecting service between Love Field and 25 destinations outside the Wright zone on October 19, 2006.[5] American Airlines also made indirect connecting travel between Love Field and locations outside the Wright zone available by October 18, 2006.
03-23-2010, 05:42 AM
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So why don't we demand they give up (on a prorated basis) a bunch of their slots at LUV? They want a LGA slot? No prob.. give up 5 LUV slots. That's probably somewhat equitable I would think.
03-23-2010, 05:54 AM
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Because the revenue potential in LGA far exceeds that of LUV and we know it.
03-23-2010, 06:03 AM
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Southwest has been around for a long time. Delta and US Airways paid for these slots a long time ago while Southwest existed. Southwest didn't think slots at LGA were worth the money. Now that Southwest has decided that people really don't like driving to ISP, they want LGA slots just handed to them. I say tough, but my opinion doesn't matter.
Did anyone see the USA Today article on changing foreign ownership law? Congress now wants to increase competition internationally to lower fares there. This industry is in trouble. Congress should be working on decreasing competition to stabilize the industry. The industry loses billions/year and Congress wants us to lose more?
Did anyone see the USA Today article on changing foreign ownership law? Congress now wants to increase competition internationally to lower fares there. This industry is in trouble. Congress should be working on decreasing competition to stabilize the industry. The industry loses billions/year and Congress wants us to lose more?
03-23-2010, 07:10 AM
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News for 'DAL' - (*DJ FAA Proposes $1.45M Fine For Delta's Northwest Unit)
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires
March 23, 2010 10:37 ET (14:37 GMT)
News for 'DAL' - (=DJ FAA Proposes $1.45M Fine For Delta's Northwest Unit >DAL)
By Doug Cameron
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
U.S. regulators on Tuesday proposed a $1.45 million fine against a unit of Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) for leaving an aircraft inspection issue unchecked for 18 years.
The Federal Aviation Administration proposed the civil penalty against Northwest Airlines for flying a number of Boeing Co. (BA) 757s "without proper windshield wiring inspections".
The FAA introduced new rules for windshield inspection in 1990. It said Northwest failed to implement all of them and flew 90,000 flights between 2005 and 2008 that did not comply with the FAA directive.
Northwest is now part of Delta, which has 30 days to respond to the FAA's proposed penalty.
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires
March 23, 2010 10:37 ET (14:37 GMT)
News for 'DAL' - (=DJ FAA Proposes $1.45M Fine For Delta's Northwest Unit >DAL)
By Doug Cameron
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
U.S. regulators on Tuesday proposed a $1.45 million fine against a unit of Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) for leaving an aircraft inspection issue unchecked for 18 years.
The Federal Aviation Administration proposed the civil penalty against Northwest Airlines for flying a number of Boeing Co. (BA) 757s "without proper windshield wiring inspections".
The FAA introduced new rules for windshield inspection in 1990. It said Northwest failed to implement all of them and flew 90,000 flights between 2005 and 2008 that did not comply with the FAA directive.
Northwest is now part of Delta, which has 30 days to respond to the FAA's proposed penalty.
03-23-2010, 07:11 AM
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Did anyone see the USA Today article on changing foreign ownership law? Congress now wants to increase competition internationally to lower fares there. This industry is in trouble. Congress should be working on decreasing competition to stabilize the industry. The industry loses billions/year and Congress wants us to lose more?
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03-23-2010, 07:21 AM
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News for 'DAL' - (*DJ FAA Proposes $1.45M Fine For Delta's Northwest Unit)
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires
March 23, 2010 10:37 ET (14:37 GMT)
News for 'DAL' - (=DJ FAA Proposes $1.45M Fine For Delta's Northwest Unit >DAL)
By Doug Cameron
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
The FAA introduced new rules for windshield inspection in 1990. It said Northwest failed to implement all of them and flew 90,000 flights between 2005 and 2008 that did not comply with the FAA directive.
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires
March 23, 2010 10:37 ET (14:37 GMT)
News for 'DAL' - (=DJ FAA Proposes $1.45M Fine For Delta's Northwest Unit >DAL)
By Doug Cameron
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
The FAA introduced new rules for windshield inspection in 1990. It said Northwest failed to implement all of them and flew 90,000 flights between 2005 and 2008 that did not comply with the FAA directive.
Gotta love the feds. This alleged maint problem was from 2005-2008, and their crack inspectors are just discovering this now
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03-23-2010, 08:06 AM
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I was thinking exactly the same thing. The Fed's inspectors are so "sharp", that they miss that an airline 'failed to inspect' an item for 18 years. How 'bout fining the FAA inspectors? Or do they just get a pass, as "they are here to help us." Where do they find some of these guys? Sheesh...
Chuck
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03-23-2010, 08:08 AM
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The July/August flight schedules are up on the Network site on DeltaNet.
Best part, the DC-9 finally loses the 7XXX flight numbers this summer! Quite of bit of additional aircraft shuffling. Lots of Bus flying in all former-south bases, 737/m88 flying through old north bases much more. Seems the -9's are still centered around DTW and MSP, with a handful of ATL turns.
Think we'll see a m88 or 737 base in DTW? Or a bus base in ATL? Just wondering.
Lurk
Best part, the DC-9 finally loses the 7XXX flight numbers this summer! Quite of bit of additional aircraft shuffling. Lots of Bus flying in all former-south bases, 737/m88 flying through old north bases much more. Seems the -9's are still centered around DTW and MSP, with a handful of ATL turns.
Think we'll see a m88 or 737 base in DTW? Or a bus base in ATL? Just wondering.
Lurk
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