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Old 03-18-2010, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by keenster
I asked 2 simple questions and neither was answered. Probably best to leave these issues alone as they are union rep issues. Neither of us have enough info to debate these issues on here and it only causes negative vibs between the groups. I'm done with it, but I am left with a huge feeling of uncertainty when it comes to being well represented by our union. This is not a DAL -S thing I would and have said that about the union before the merger. The ironic thing is the only guy I would never make this statement about is the guy we are talking about-KW. Done over and out.

It does make me sad that this is going on. I know KW and have nothing but the utmost respect for him in his former position. I believe that if he feels that his abilities are not going to be utilized, then there is nothing for him to do. He is not one to hangout, collect a paycheck and twiddle his thumbs. He would work tirelessly as the Contract Admin while flying almost full schedules (note: I do understand and support flight pay loss as long as it is not being abused).

What I find ironic about the Council 54 letter is the fact that some of these same individuals had a huge problem with the Security Chairman at NWA (I believe the feeling they had was that he was a "rogue" as he didn't just follow along with the senior agenda). I will say that this security chairman absolutely looks out for the junior pilots.

Nuff said and I am not going to debate the issue further. It is time that we move on and march together.
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
El Diablo? Jeez The Devil? Well I would bet my son agrees with that assessment.

Wait.. I thought "El Diablo" meant something like a fighting chicken..


At least according to Ricky Bobby.......

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Old 03-18-2010, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 1234
It does make me sad that this is going on. I know KW and have nothing but the utmost respect for him in his former position. I believe that if he feels that his abilities are not going to be utilized, then there is nothing for him to do. He is not one to hangout, collect a paycheck and twiddle his thumbs. He would work tirelessly as the Contract Admin while flying almost full schedules (note: I do understand and support flight pay loss as long as it is not being abused).

What I find ironic about the Council 54 letter is the fact that some of these same individuals had a huge problem with the Security Chairman at NWA (I believe the feeling they had was that he was a "rogue" as he didn't just follow along with the senior agenda). I will say that this security chairman absolutely looks out for the junior pilots.

Nuff said and I am not going to debate the issue further. It is time that we move on and march together.
We as line pilots can only do that move on and hopefully march together. The union will always deal in politics and that is where the problems arise. Look at Washington now. I have seen so many guys get elected to positions touting how they are there for the pilots only to turn out to be there for themselves and the union line after the coolaide drinking fest they go to in Herndon. That is the real trick, trying to find the guy that is there for the regular line guy and not there for himself, and not there for the idea of union issues put before pilot issues. So many guys turn their position into a good deal for themsleves, I have seen it and witnessed it first hand. I have even told newly elected reps what could and would happen to them and have called them out on it when they became selfservers. The nature of the business I guess.
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:43 AM
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Wait.. I thought "El Diablo" meant something like a fighting chicken..


At least according to Ricky Bobby.......

With the beak?
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:01 AM
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Excellent post! Maybe a few of these strategically posted in ATL and SEA would lighten these guys up.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
Excellent post! Maybe a few of these strategically posted in ATL and SEA would lighten these guys up.
How did my wife get on here??????
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by keenster
How did my wife get on here??????
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by keenster
How did my wife get on here??????
Nice!! Bid reserve!
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:42 AM
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Instead of "this is how it was done at f NWA or f DAL and it was better" we should be saying, you know the way we do it now doesn't make sense, it might make more sense if we did it like this.. And that way you really don't know if it is a f NWA or f DAL way of doing things, just that if it is better and/or safer, it makes sense to try and do it that way.
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