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Old 03-11-2010, 09:28 PM
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How does traveling non-rev work on Alaskan/Horizon? I see on delta travel net that we list their flights but you can not select the flights to list yourself stand-by on. Both airlines are not listed on the OAL lists for Zed fares. How do you show up to the airport and get the family on?

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Old 03-11-2010, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp


I believe this picture describes that quite aptly.



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Dear Lord.... yeap, that describes it. Now if you could only make that into a flight kit sticker you'd make a fortune.

On a side note, cats should never be allowed to grow out of the kitten phase. Ever. What is that joke about dogs and cats, with a dog you clean up their pooh and give them food and let them sleep in your bed and they say "wow, you're a god!" Do the same for cats and what do they say, "wow, I must be God."
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Old 03-12-2010, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
I heard they are giving all DH pilots an aisle seat if its domestic now. Anyone else hear that?
One of the many perks of LOA 20.
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Old 03-12-2010, 04:38 AM
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Old 03-12-2010, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt
How does traveling non-rev work on Alaskan/Horizon? I see on delta travel net that we list their flights but you can not select the flights to list yourself stand-by on. Both airlines are not listed on the OAL lists for Zed fares. How do you show up to the airport and get the family on?

Thanks
Not a Delta guy but a DCI employee. It works like a ZED, but it is not a ZED. All tickets are one price. Call Delta non-rev number, get a paper ticket, call AS to list and you are good to go.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:38 AM
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I know that we have moved on, but I wanted to add a few remarks about the longevity issue mentioned on here yesterday. For the record, I am not among the 170 or so who claim to be affected by this.

First, it is not just an issue for those 170 as they claim. Every pre-merger NWA pilot is working from an effective longevity date that is not the same as their hire date. Even those who had longevity adjusted for furlough time still have the gap between their hire date and the date when the first person in their class finished OE. That is just the way it was when we got hired and that difference still remains. I have a hire date in February, and a longevity date in May.

Personally, I don't find it to be a big deal. Yes, it does mean that we all spent about 15 months on year 1. However, it does not really cost you three months every year as some would like to state. You are still going to spend 12 months on each step from 2 to 12.

Comparing yourself to the guy right next to you on the seniority list from the other pre-merger company is just an exercise in futility. Date of hire would only be a valid comparison if that was how the list was merged. It was not.

I am all for moving past the subtle differences that will always be a part of this, and focusing on the big picture as a unified pilot group.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Had a FA who told the Captain she only needed one more week of training to be a pilot since their New Hire training is five weeks long and ours is six. She pointed at her "FAA Crew license" to reinforce the point. Talk about misguided/misinformed and "what planet have you been living on?".
Lets see I could be a professional if I answered and AD in the paper too. One year contracts based on how well they serve the customer is key. Tired of hearing them and seeing them treat people like the enemy. Maybe just assign trips instead of allowing F/A's to bid (ala BA). Would create a lot of incentive for the cat ranchers and turtle necks to move on. Perhaps maybe make them actually use emergency equipment and actually get into the raft to qualify for that certificate thingy. (pilots too) F/A's are key to service and we are losing it fast to our competitors. Jetblue had it right about he f/a's......Contracts

Sorry for the rant. But during a briefing the other day, the A line (cat rancher) proceeded to tell that Capt and I that she would call us and let us know when it was ok for us to come out and use the bathroom. I almost gave Miss Daisy a hay maker for telling me I needed to ask for her permission to go make water!

But the Captain did not miss the opportunity to remind her that she is not in command of the aircraft. Needless to say 5.5 hours not a word....
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
Lets see I could be a professional if I answered and AD in the paper too. One year contracts based on how well they serve the customer is key. Tired of hearing them and seeing them treat people like the enemy. Maybe just assign trips instead of allowing F/A's to bid (ala BA). Would create a lot of incentive for the cat ranchers and turtle necks to move on. Perhaps maybe make them actually use emergency equipment and actually get into the raft to qualify for that certificate thingy. (pilots too) F/A's are key to service and we are losing it fast to our competitors. Jetblue had it right about he f/a's......Contracts

Sorry for the rant. But during a briefing the other day, the A line (cat rancher) proceeded to tell that Capt and I that she would call us and let us know when it was ok for us to come out and use the bathroom. I almost gave Miss Daisy a hay maker for telling me I needed to ask for her permission to go make water!

But the Captain did not miss the opportunity to remind her that she is not in command of the aircraft. Needless to say 5.5 hours not a word....
They always prove their point. I would have taken five bottles a water and had a few breaks for good measure! I keed I keed.
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Old 03-12-2010, 07:01 AM
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Nice to see us adding LAX and SFO on mainline equipment again (and a couple 76 seat RJs) starting in June. Hopefully a little more west coast expansion is on tap.
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Old 03-12-2010, 07:03 AM
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Wow that is good. Better than AS doing it, but then again they are doing a bunch of Transcons out of SEA.
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