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Old 03-09-2010, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Someone already posted the article somewhere in these hills about AirTran's CEO comments concerning a resurrgent Delta. I wanted to bring it back up for discussion but can't find it.

So despite it not being here and nothing for you to work on please discuss it.
Its the facts. We are hurting them. They have cut a lot of flying. I would tell them to be prepared to cut more. It is about to get interesting.

They are going to MKE to diversity. Best of luck with LUV and RJET up there. They really are in a bind. There best hope is for LUV to buy em.

It appears with new flights like HSV to BWI and MCO they are trying the Allegiant model of cherry picking routes and leaving when it does not work.
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Professor
Nah. I'm a path of least resistance sort of dude.

As are almost ALL of my brothers and sisters in JFK, I ASSURE you if there were a time saving device on the ER...we would know about it.

Ok let me rephrase, I used CPDLC on several ER's in October and November and the controlling agency's confirmed we were CPDLC.
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:58 PM
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Hey ER guys, do all of the TWA birds now have GPS and updated boxes? I hated taxing out and deleting the "CHECK FUEL" FMS message or whatever it said because you couldn't put SC's in the box and I always thought it was funny to fly a track with 0 offset and watch everyone pass you to the left. All you could say is "that ain't right..." and go back to whatever you were doing to keep yourself occupied like shaking your half empty water bottle until the other guy couldn't stand it and he'd call Helga and get a pee break.
Saw a old box recently. Man it reminded me of the 88 and then I got frustrated!
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LOBO
Ok let me rephrase, I used CPDLC on several ER's in October and November and the controlling agency's confirmed we were CPDLC.
We have some that are waypoint reporting over the pond. They may mistake that for CPDLC. The difference is that the wpr goes thought company to the controlling agency. It is my understanding that CPDLC is done directly. Different but the same.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:02 PM
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I doubt it happened for two reasons. First you can't push until you have the final weight and balance from the Acars. Why not just put the non revs on then. I do it all the time. Second once the aircraft actually pushes every Non Rev I know is gone in about 30 seconds looking for other options. They don't sit at the gate so there would be no non revs to board.
Yes it happened. When is the last time you have asked the gate agent what the max gross they are releasing your flight for. We have discovered that DAL operated a little different than NWA in that 870,000 means 865,000 and they restrict TO that weight vs the max therefore leaving behind 5000lbs of capacity. Well we turned around and went back to the gate and put the nonrevs on because we could carry them. In our opinion, just sloppy management of numbers that gives dispatch the ability of not being correct because we coud not get a good answer as to why they were doing this. So I was there and don't tell me what we did or did not do. It was grand. Not many captians have the cahunas to do this. I would name him but have to protect him because of the company spies on here. It has been our history at NWA not to leave nonrevs at the gate if we have empty seats, and we watch the weight restricitons very close. Had to be that way at our operation. Shocked at the DAL operation of leaving nonrevs behind.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:02 PM
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Hey C44 guys, they have a video up on the c44 website of the officers reports!
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
I just want to post on what may be the longest thread on any board, anywhere.
In honor of your comment concerning the best meeting place for Delta pilots of all shapes, sizes, widths, heights, greeness and degraded night vision:




Of course this was a close second...



And this I almost picked considering what it takes to post here:

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Old 03-09-2010, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Hey C44 guys, they have a video up on the c44 website of the officers reports!
Cool, glad they're doing that.


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Old 03-09-2010, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by keenster
Yes it happened. When is the last time you have asked the gate agent what the max gross they are releasing your flight for. We have discovered that DAL operated a little different than NWA in that 870,000 means 865,000 and they restrict TO that weight vs the max therefore leaving behind 5000lbs of capacity. Well we turned around and went back to the gate and put the nonrevs on because we could carry them. In our opinion, just sloppy management of numbers that gives dispatch the ability of not being correct because we coud not get a good answer as to why they were doing this. So I was there and don't tell me what we did or did not do. It was grand. Not many captians have the cahunas to do this. I would name him but have to protect him because of the company spies on here. It has been our history at NWA not to leave nonrevs at the gate if we have enpty seats and we watch the weight restricitons very close. Had to at out operation. Shocked at the DAL operation of leaving nonrevs behind.
Trust me, no one wants to leave NR's behind. Easiest way to find that data is to look at the max planned weight for flight in the remarks section for your drift down planning. That right there is where you can find the fudge. If there is some most guys I know will check and see if they can get everyone on. (It gives the max planned weight for the flight. I take the mlw and add burn to it to get a good idea if we have room. Sometimes there are critical terrain issues but they are normally noted)
That said, we all need to do everything we can to get the internal customer taken care of.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:08 PM
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Oh motivational posters that now adorn the walls of the "Latest and Greatest" thread. I guess that means that this is becoming a cheesy institution too. Great.
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