volav8r1

Incorrect. Everything was pretty much the same as the Delta paperwork packet they just added an extra release page (Route, MELS, Fuel info, etc..). We're not talking about an entire 85 pages of "crap". We're just talking about less than half a page of info. Not a huge issue, just different.

forgot to bid

For the Ranchers:

Women: Women love cats.

Men: Men say they love cats, but when women aren't looking, men kick cats.

deltabound

Interesting quote from the book "Hard Facts, Dangerous Half-Truths And Total Nonsense: Profiting From Evidence-Based Management" regarding MERGERS:


(I wonder if DAL/NWA will be the exception? History would suggest otherwise.)

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Study after study shows that most mergers – some estimates are 70 percent or more – fail to deliver their intended benefits and destroy economic value in the process. A recent analysis of 93 studies covering more than 200,000 mergers published in peer-reviewed journals showed that, on average, the negative effects of a merger on shareholder value become evident less than a month after a merger is announced and persist thereafter. …


More thoughtful leaders might do what Cisco Systems has done – figure out the factors associated with successful and unsuccessful mergers and then actually use those insights to guide behavior. … A Fortune article on bad mergers noted that “infrastructure giant Cisco has digested 57 companies without heartburn.” … Cisco figured out that mergers between similar sized companies rarely work, as there are frequently struggles about which team will control the combined entity. … Cisco’s leaders also determined that mergers work best when companies are geographically proximate, making integration and collaboration much easier. … and they also uncovered the importance of organizational cultural compatibility for merger success. …

sinca3

If someone hasn't already beat me to it....grab the note pads from the hotels! They make great scratch paper

iaflyer

Not that we shouldn't all be getting a full explanation of the AWABS system, but when I was a new hire in 2008, we got the short-course on AWABS too: A basic breakdown of what's what, and a "here's where it is in the FOM." then a "Ok - lets move on to the next topic folks..." from the instructor.

nerd2009

Just finished a three day trip with the introduction to the new paperwork on the DC9 migration. Ugh!!

We lucked out on the the 7th and had a MSP F/O, from the training center (Ice Palace) ride with us from GRB to MSP. It was a relief to have, someone spoon feed us the gouge. But it was still a$$es and elbows with torn pieces of paper floating around.

I really helps to have the agents print out two copies of the paperwork so each has one to study, while hunting for information.

ACARS has changed and we lost a lot of capability, the worst being not able to request flights/gates for us commuters trying to make a close connection.

Had the pleasure of meeting a DS DC9 F/O in MSP. Welcome to the Diesel nine!!

80ktsClamp

That was my biggest complaint when I changed from the NW (9E which was identical) ACARS back in 2007.

Other than that they are pretty much identical.

forgot to bid

Same. "Read the book, learn it on the line." Which is absolutely true because it makes sense there but then you really never get the logic of it all which always helps make it make sense.

I mean when I first started I was amazed as there is paper flying into the cockpit and out of the cockpit and into the trash and every which way but nobody seems to know how many people we really have on board!?!? or how much the darn thing weighs today. "we padded the numbers with a tolerance", so you padded already padded numbers? And whats a tolerance? Why don't you just send me paperwork when you know what it weighs?

it was confusing at first but I was glad to be here and didn't complain. Til now.

FOM: Passenger Count Discrepancies

When a Captain lacks confidence in the passenger count, perform a manual count.
The following factors could account for discrepancies in a passenger count:
• Load factor flight attendants occupying a passenger seat who are
accounted for on the AWABS F/A line.
• Jump seat riders who have moved from a flight deck or cabin jump seat to a passenger seat.
• Unticketed infants are not accounted for on AWABS and may be sitting in a seat next to their parents.
• Tickets purchased for musical instruments, etc., will appear on AWABS
as a passenger.
• A single, large passenger who purchases two seats and is accounted for in AWABS as two people.

Note:

For WDR purposes, a child is defined as a person who has reached their second birthday, but has not yet reached their 13th birthday. Lap children are not counted as a child since they are part of the standard passenger weight.

True. I think I'm reading you right, its just a different way of doing it. But for me it was when I first started here downright confusing.

hockeypilot44

There's a difference. When you were a new hire, you were going to fly with captains that had been using the system for years. We have two crew members up there that are clueless as to how the system works with no one to show us how to do it right. This applies to everything. As a new hire, you could ask your captains about anything. We couldn't do that because none of us knew anything abou the Delta system. That is why the TWG notepads were put created. Two releases is a nice thing to have. It keeps both pilots in the loop. Hopefully this gets changed.

johnso29

Satch,

It was a little different. If you were a Blockholder w/o a block(which just means PBS couldn't build you to min credit) you had 3 options:

1)Time available away from base-68 hours of pay. Lets say PBS could give you 48 hours worth of trips. There was a formula to determine how many days of on call you had to sit. 68-48=20 divided by 4.25= 4.7 rounded up to 5 days.
So for 5 days out of the month you could sit anywhere in the USA and have your phone on from 0700-1500 local base time. Now here's the kicker. Scheduling calls you and assigns you a trip. Can't make it? No problem. We will move on to the next guy, no questions asked. That for 68 hours of pay. I did it in Sep, Oct, and Nov 09, and spent no more then 6 days on the road each month.

2)Time available IN base-75 hours of pay. W/in 3 hours of domicile airport each day from 0700-1500. Same formula to determine days of availability. 68-x(x=credit for month)divided by 4.25.

3)Reserve for the month-75 hours of pay. How is this different? Min days off. Time available in base you usually ended up with 15+ days off as opposed to 11/12 in a 30/31 day bid period. However, on reserve you could bid for different SC periods, or long call so you had more control over that.

I personally prefer the DAL reserve system, but it has some things that could be improved. (But what doesn't?)