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So how far down the list of options is the out of base white slip when filling open trips? 49 reserves available yesterday and they awarded 5 W and on O. They did call one regular reserve. Sure wish I lived in base.
N. Open Time Award/Assignment Sequence for Rotations Reporting 12 or More Hours After
Initial Attempt to Contact Pilot (Long Notice Ladder)
1. Pilots subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K. 1.
2. Regular pilots who have submitted white slips (in category, in seniority order)
Note: White slips for same-day open time will be awarded by proffer.
Exception: A local council officer who drops a rotation to conduct a monthly council
meeting will be given first priority to white slip open time during that bid period in order
to recover such dropped rotations. (see Section 24 J. 8.)
3. Pilots subject to recovery flying under Section 23 G. 5. a. 1) Note, (OE recovery)
4. Long call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
5. Short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
6. Reserve pilots who are on an X-day or long call reserve pilots for whom the award would
interrupt their X-day(s) and who have submitted a yellow slip (in category, within RUO)
7. Out-of-base regular pilots who have submitted white slips (in seniority order)
Note: White slips for same-day open time will be awarded by proffer.
8. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots (by base, within RUO)
9. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots (by base, within RUO)
10. Long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their regular line
day(s)-off (in category, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
11. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their regular line
day(s)-off (in category, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
12. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their
regular line day(s)-off (by base, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
13. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their
regular line day(s)-off (by base, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
14. Long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with their
regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
15. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with their
regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
16. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with
their regular line rotation(s) (within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
17. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict
with their regular line rotation(s) (within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
18. Pilots who have submitted GSs (in category, in seniority order)
19. Instructors who have submitted GSs without conflict under Section 11 C. 1. c. 2) (in
seniority order)
Note: Instructors who can hold First Officer, but cannot hold Captain, on the aircraft
model on which they instruct, will be afforded priority over instructors who can hold
Captain on such aircraft model, for the purpose of GS awards for flying as First Officer.
20. Out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in seniority order)
21. Pilots who are currently flying and would be re-routed.
22. Long call reserve pilots whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
23. Short call reserve pilots whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
24. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
25. Regular pilots who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse seniority
order)
26. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
27. Regular pilots who have submitted GSWCs (in category, in seniority order)
28. Regular pilots who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse seniority order)
29. International category pilots (domestic category open time that is converted to
international category open time)
a. pilots who have submitted GSs (in category, in seniority order)
b. out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in position, in seniority order)
c. long call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
d. short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
e. out-of-base long call reserve pilots (in position, within RUO)
f. out-of-base short call reserve pilots (in position, within RUO)
30. Available qualified pilots (in position, in inverse seniority order)
O. Open Time Award/Assignment Sequence for Rotations Reporting Less Than 12 Hours After
Initial Attempt to Contact Pilot (Short Notice Ladder)
1. Pilots subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K. 1.
2. Regular pilots who have submitted white slips (by proffer, in category, in seniority order)
Exception: A local council officer who drops a rotation to conduct a monthly council
meeting will be given first priority to white slip open time during that bid period in order
to recover such dropped rotations. (see Section 24 J. 8.)
3. Long call reserve pilots who have submitted yellow slips (provided FAR reserve rest
requirements have been met, in category, within RUO)
4. Out-of-base regular pilots who have submitted white slips (by proffer, in seniority order)
5. Short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
6. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots who have submitted yellow slips (provided FAR
reserve rest requirements have been met, by base, within RUO)
7. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots (by base, within RUO)
8. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their regular line
day(s)-off (in category, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
9. Out-of base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their
regular line day(s)-off (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
10. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with their
regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
11. Out-of base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict
with their regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW
value)
12. Pilots (including long call reserve pilots whose rotation would report within 12 hours of
initial attempt to contact) who have submitted GSs (in category, in seniority order)
13. Instructors who have submitted GSs under Section 11 C. 1. c. 2) (in seniority order)
Note: Instructors who can hold First Officer, but cannot hold Captain, on the aircraft
model on which they instruct, will be afforded priority over instructors who can hold
Captain on such aircraft model, for the purpose of GS awards for flying as First Officer.
14. Out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in seniority order)
15. Pilots who are currently flying and would be re-routed
16. Long call reserve pilots whose rotation would report within 12 hours of initial attempt to
contact (by proffer, in category, in inverse seniority order)
17. Short call reserve pilots whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
18. Long call reserve pilots whose rotation would report within 12 hours of initial attempt to
contact and whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (by proffer, in category, in inverse
seniority order)
19. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
20. Regular pilots who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse seniority
order)
21. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
22. Regular pilots who have submitted GSWCs (in category, in seniority order)
23. Out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSWCs (in seniority order)
24. Regular pilots who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse seniority order)
25. International category pilots (domestic category open time converted to international
category open time):
a. pilots who have submitted GSs (in base, in position, in seniority order)
b. out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in position, in seniority order)
c. short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
26. Available qualified pilots (in position, in inverse seniority order)
Note: Crew Scheduling may at its discretion bypass a short call pilot for assignment to flying
if the assignment would cause him to be released within two hours of a required rest period.
Initial Attempt to Contact Pilot (Long Notice Ladder)
1. Pilots subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K. 1.
2. Regular pilots who have submitted white slips (in category, in seniority order)
Note: White slips for same-day open time will be awarded by proffer.
Exception: A local council officer who drops a rotation to conduct a monthly council
meeting will be given first priority to white slip open time during that bid period in order
to recover such dropped rotations. (see Section 24 J. 8.)
3. Pilots subject to recovery flying under Section 23 G. 5. a. 1) Note, (OE recovery)
4. Long call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
5. Short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
6. Reserve pilots who are on an X-day or long call reserve pilots for whom the award would
interrupt their X-day(s) and who have submitted a yellow slip (in category, within RUO)
7. Out-of-base regular pilots who have submitted white slips (in seniority order)
Note: White slips for same-day open time will be awarded by proffer.
8. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots (by base, within RUO)
9. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots (by base, within RUO)
10. Long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their regular line
day(s)-off (in category, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
11. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their regular line
day(s)-off (in category, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
12. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their
regular line day(s)-off (by base, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
13. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their
regular line day(s)-off (by base, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
14. Long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with their
regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
15. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with their
regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
16. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with
their regular line rotation(s) (within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
17. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict
with their regular line rotation(s) (within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
18. Pilots who have submitted GSs (in category, in seniority order)
19. Instructors who have submitted GSs without conflict under Section 11 C. 1. c. 2) (in
seniority order)
Note: Instructors who can hold First Officer, but cannot hold Captain, on the aircraft
model on which they instruct, will be afforded priority over instructors who can hold
Captain on such aircraft model, for the purpose of GS awards for flying as First Officer.
20. Out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in seniority order)
21. Pilots who are currently flying and would be re-routed.
22. Long call reserve pilots whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
23. Short call reserve pilots whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
24. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
25. Regular pilots who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse seniority
order)
26. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
27. Regular pilots who have submitted GSWCs (in category, in seniority order)
28. Regular pilots who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse seniority order)
29. International category pilots (domestic category open time that is converted to
international category open time)
a. pilots who have submitted GSs (in category, in seniority order)
b. out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in position, in seniority order)
c. long call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
d. short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
e. out-of-base long call reserve pilots (in position, within RUO)
f. out-of-base short call reserve pilots (in position, within RUO)
30. Available qualified pilots (in position, in inverse seniority order)
O. Open Time Award/Assignment Sequence for Rotations Reporting Less Than 12 Hours After
Initial Attempt to Contact Pilot (Short Notice Ladder)
1. Pilots subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K. 1.
2. Regular pilots who have submitted white slips (by proffer, in category, in seniority order)
Exception: A local council officer who drops a rotation to conduct a monthly council
meeting will be given first priority to white slip open time during that bid period in order
to recover such dropped rotations. (see Section 24 J. 8.)
3. Long call reserve pilots who have submitted yellow slips (provided FAR reserve rest
requirements have been met, in category, within RUO)
4. Out-of-base regular pilots who have submitted white slips (by proffer, in seniority order)
5. Short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
6. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots who have submitted yellow slips (provided FAR
reserve rest requirements have been met, by base, within RUO)
7. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots (by base, within RUO)
8. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their regular line
day(s)-off (in category, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
9. Out-of base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their
regular line day(s)-off (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
10. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with their
regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
11. Out-of base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict
with their regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW
value)
12. Pilots (including long call reserve pilots whose rotation would report within 12 hours of
initial attempt to contact) who have submitted GSs (in category, in seniority order)
13. Instructors who have submitted GSs under Section 11 C. 1. c. 2) (in seniority order)
Note: Instructors who can hold First Officer, but cannot hold Captain, on the aircraft
model on which they instruct, will be afforded priority over instructors who can hold
Captain on such aircraft model, for the purpose of GS awards for flying as First Officer.
14. Out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in seniority order)
15. Pilots who are currently flying and would be re-routed
16. Long call reserve pilots whose rotation would report within 12 hours of initial attempt to
contact (by proffer, in category, in inverse seniority order)
17. Short call reserve pilots whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
18. Long call reserve pilots whose rotation would report within 12 hours of initial attempt to
contact and whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (by proffer, in category, in inverse
seniority order)
19. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
20. Regular pilots who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse seniority
order)
21. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse
seniority order)
22. Regular pilots who have submitted GSWCs (in category, in seniority order)
23. Out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSWCs (in seniority order)
24. Regular pilots who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse seniority order)
25. International category pilots (domestic category open time converted to international
category open time):
a. pilots who have submitted GSs (in base, in position, in seniority order)
b. out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in position, in seniority order)
c. short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
26. Available qualified pilots (in position, in inverse seniority order)
Note: Crew Scheduling may at its discretion bypass a short call pilot for assignment to flying
if the assignment would cause him to be released within two hours of a required rest period.
#7 out of 26. That was fun. Look where GSWC sit.
Snow forecasted for ATL tomorrow, no accumulation but does this mean flights XLD anyways?
Snow forecasted for ATL tomorrow, no accumulation but does this mean flights XLD anyways?
I saw that - I think it was less than 12 hours, so the Out of Base White slip went before a base SC reserve. (#4 out of 26)
But how many long call guys had yellow slips in? Just seems fishy to me.
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SWA? Huh?
PS, I shoulda' quoted to preserve the evidence!
PS, I shoulda' quoted to preserve the evidence!
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"The Cranky Flier" has a good rundown and analysis of the Tokyo Haneda slot fight. Highly recommended, good for the layman.
Most interesting is that the actual slot times they're talking about giving out aren't exactly PRIME slots.
US Airlines Begin The Fight for Tokyo Haneda Slots >> The Cranky Flier - Airlines|Airports|Air Travel Blog
Most interesting is that the actual slot times they're talking about giving out aren't exactly PRIME slots.
US Airlines Begin The Fight for Tokyo Haneda Slots >> The Cranky Flier - Airlines|Airports|Air Travel Blog
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