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Old 02-21-2010, 06:58 PM
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Are you calling me jughead?

Oh snap, ftb. Choose your next move wisely.
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
Are you calling me jughead?
Yes. Yes I did. But it had more to do with the P-47 than anything else. I'm still a big fan of that plane as ugly as it is. Although I think the Bearcat was pretty cool too and I'd loved to flown the Skyraider. Actually, the one fighter that I'll always love is Cloud Dancer No 9. I played Goose once, I've got pictures upside down from the backseat. Satch, it sometimes has Auburn sticks on the gear doors.

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Old 02-21-2010, 07:17 PM
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That's cool, cuz I do love Jugs. But is that question aimed at me? Are you agreeing with my previous statement and using SWAPA as an example or a foil?
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:26 PM
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As an example. You make a point worth exploring.

Which speaking of the devil, they've invented a new type of service. As someone on another thread said it, they've decided to call their unique creation a "hub and spoke system"
Southwest adjusts schedule in bid to seek more connecting fliers | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Business: Y!Finance Southwest Airlines

We were over at a friends house tonight Satch, Alabama grad that went to the game. Super didn't mention it but I think the ticket was almost the 8"x11", or 4"x10", huge.
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:33 PM
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Which speaking of the devil, they've invented a new type of service. As someone on another thread said it, they've decided to all their unique creation a "hub and spoke system"
Southwest adjusts schedule in bid to seek more connecting fliers | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Business: Y!Finance Southwest Airlines
Actually, SWA has doing this for years. If anyone has ever spent any time at Love field, they would know that SWA definitely has "peak" times so to speak. As the article states, they have been know as a point to point airline, but in reality they have always had an element of hub and spoking going on at their "hubs".
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:38 PM
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You're 100% right freebird. They have had a multitude of hubs for a while.
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Feb. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Deutsche Lufthansa AG is preparing for a strike by its pilots tomorrow after their union failed to drop a demand for the airline to extend pay and conditions to foreign-based crews.

The airline tonight rejected an offer by the pilots’ union Vereinigung Cockpit to postpone its main demand, which may have opened the way to preventing a strike by 4,500 pilots tomorrow. The union said it was ready to call for arbitration over its demand for uniform pay and conditions, effectively offering to postpone the main hurdle to restarting negotiations.

“We’ve already spelled out our conditions for resuming talks: the offer to call legal arbitration on the issue of exporting tariff accords abroad is unacceptable to us,” said Lufthansa spokeswoman Stefanie Stotz in a phone interview tonight. “We’re preparing for a strike as Cockpit has evidently failed to remove the main obstacle.”

Lufthansa has said the strike may cost it 100 million euros ($136 million) because of the cancellation of 1,200 of the 1,800 daily flights the main division and its regional subsidiaries operate. Joerg Handwerg, a spokesman for Cockpit told the DPA newswire tonight that he “definitely” now expects a strike to go ahead.

The pilots said last week that they want a guarantee that Cologne-based Lufthansa won’t use planes and crews from newly acquired subsidiaries for the main Lufthansa brand’s flights.

Talks on wages and job conditions broke down in December. The union called the strike on Feb. 17 after 94 percent of pilots voted in favor.

The carrier, which has its main hub at Frankfurt airport, has called the strike “disproportionate” and said its legal advisers are investigating whether the strike call conforms to the law. Stotz said the airline is still prepared to talk with Cockpit before tomorrow.

To contact the reporter on this story: Brian Parkin in Berlin at [email protected].

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Old 02-21-2010, 08:08 PM
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The old model of unions extracting every last penny from the corporation regardless of profits is dead. There is too much competition in the global economy and margins are too thin. We had better care whether we dominate the world or the bottom half of us won't have jobs.
So true, that is now management’s specialty. Lets see zero profits, BK around the corner, poor performance - Oh what to do? I know management bonuses all around!
But wait, says an extra sharp, recent MBA recipient "If we file for BK we will lose our bonuses and pensions too." I can just imagine the scene as the other masters of the universe pause, look at each other seriously for a second, and then burst out laughing! "Ha! us lose our bonuses, us lose our golden parachutes. That’s rich! What a rube!"

Yes, the days of unions extracting anything from corporations these days is dead - management is much better at it than the unions ever were.

Standard management rebuttal:

"We can't help it, no one can make money in this market, these conditions are terrible." To which I partly agree, but then reply - "If you can not help it, then it does not really matter who is running the company, and so why do you deserve the big $$$$$ bonuses?"

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Old 02-21-2010, 08:21 PM
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Alright so this Toyota thing is shaping up to get very very ugly in the politics and world affairs arena. Just go to news.google.com and look it up.

So, with that said, giving our situation with NRT and Open Skies and AMR/JAL and so forth, I wonder what a Japan vs USA vs Japan situation will mean for us?
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Old 02-21-2010, 08:37 PM
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And it WILL be..... as soon as those guys stop accepting $23/hr.

This really isn't rocket science, guys. We have half the airline pilots in this country WILLING to work for regional wages. THAT'S why we have half the pilots in this country WORKING for regional wages. And until that changes, the pressure on mainline wages will never end.
This is not going to happen. EVERY entry level regional job pays around this much. How else are you supposed to get flight experience to move on to a major? I don't think Delta would have hired an 8000 hour CFI! The only option is for people to decide not to become airline pilots. When people start deciding that they're going to give up their dream of a flying career and go into another career, the regionals will start running short on pilots and wages/benefits will increase. Until that time, everything is going to stay status quo. We need airline pilots to mentor those coming out of high school to educate them on what life is really like in this industry right now. I just did this recently when I talked to my cousin's boyfriend who's halfway through his degree and flight training at an aviation college. I told him to go into the military if he has the opportunity and stay away from the regionals. I enjoyed my civilian training and flying, but would have jumped at the chance to fly for the military. It would have provided a much higher quality of life for myself and my family.
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Old 02-21-2010, 08:51 PM
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Dear FTB,

Because of this picture not only do I have a little captain in me, but so does my iPhone. Thanks for helping to short out my phone.

Sincerely,

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