Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-17-2010, 03:41 AM
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02-17-2010, 04:13 AM
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02-17-2010, 04:18 AM
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Ever hear of pilot investors?
If I believed everything I read on aviation forums regarding the economy I'd move to a bunker while hoarding food, guns/ammo and gold. And I would have done it in 2002.
Of course if I was that cynical I probably would have been a helicopter pilot!
(insert Harry Reasoner article here...)
btw, I've got plenty of the "essentials" should the zombies attack!
Ever hear of pilot investors?
If I believed everything I read on aviation forums regarding the economy I'd move to a bunker while hoarding food, guns/ammo and gold. And I would have done it in 2002.
Of course if I was that cynical I probably would have been a helicopter pilot!
(insert Harry Reasoner article here...)btw, I've got plenty of the "essentials" should the zombies attack!
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So Slow, are you then saying that you are that cynical?
02-17-2010, 04:19 AM
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Who isn't cynical in this industry?
02-17-2010, 04:48 AM
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Tarmac rules get flights dropped
Top Stories | Updated 17h 10m ago
By Alan Levin, USA TODAY
Amy Cohn, an associate professor at the University of Michigan who has done extensive research on airline scheduling, said she had seen a substantial increase in cancellations across the airline industry. "They're canceling a lot more," she said.
Passenger advocates say that airlines don't need to cancel flights to prevent tarmac delays. "This is solvable" without excess cancellations, said Kate Hanni, who founded Flyersrights.org after a flight she was on in 2006 was stranded.
The Department of Transportation authored the three-hour tarmac rule to protect passengers' "fundamental right to be treated with respect," said spokeswoman Maureen Knightly
That is one hell of a fine!!!
Top Stories | Updated 17h 10m ago
By Alan Levin, USA TODAY
Amy Cohn, an associate professor at the University of Michigan who has done extensive research on airline scheduling, said she had seen a substantial increase in cancellations across the airline industry. "They're canceling a lot more," she said.
Passenger advocates say that airlines don't need to cancel flights to prevent tarmac delays. "This is solvable" without excess cancellations, said Kate Hanni, who founded Flyersrights.org after a flight she was on in 2006 was stranded.
The Department of Transportation authored the three-hour tarmac rule to protect passengers' "fundamental right to be treated with respect," said spokeswoman Maureen Knightly
That is one hell of a fine!!!
02-17-2010, 04:59 AM
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A terrific read is Amity Shlaes The Forgotten Man: A History of the Great Depression. Reading about the prelude to the Great Depression is like Deja Vu all over again. I'm not throwing fear grenades Johnson, just reading the historical tea leaves. Hope I'm wrong and If I am I will gladly buy you a Guinness at the Irish Pub in DTW.
I think Delta's business plan is the best of all the airlines and based on projections should be wildly profitable. I just don't think those projections are going to hold out over the next year.
I think Delta's business plan is the best of all the airlines and based on projections should be wildly profitable. I just don't think those projections are going to hold out over the next year.
Point being, I can't go through life worrying about if I'll have a job next fall, next spring, or until I retire. It'll put my stomach in so many knots I won't be able to enjoy the job I have now, or my wonderful family. If I get furloughed I will find a way to support my family. I dont fear a furlough. I think the hardest part would not be the loss of income, but being stripped of the title. I know that sounds silly, but being an airline pilot is all I've known.
Bottom line, let's hope there is no double dip & we are all moving up soon.
02-17-2010, 05:00 AM
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Tarmac rules get flights dropped
The government announced in December it would fine airlines $27,500 per passenger for long tarmac delays — or $2.75 million for a 100-passenger flight.
Cancellations cost far less than a huge fine, especially since seats are routinely prepaid and airlines save fuel cost.
The government announced in December it would fine airlines $27,500 per passenger for long tarmac delays — or $2.75 million for a 100-passenger flight.
Cancellations cost far less than a huge fine, especially since seats are routinely prepaid and airlines save fuel cost.
In a winter situation, this probably saves the company money. Say the flight was only going to make $500 total. (with the small margins in the airline biz, this is possible). Throw on some de-icing fluid at $4 a gallon - it doesn't take much to make a flight unprofitable.
02-17-2010, 05:02 AM
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Point being, I can't go through life worrying about if I'll have a job next fall, next spring, or until I retire. It'll put my stomach in so many knots I won't be able to enjoy the job I have now, or my wonderful family. If I get furloughed I will find a way to support my family. I dont fear a furlough. I think the hardest part would not be the loss of income, but being stripped of the title. I know that sounds silly, but being an airline pilot is all I've known.
02-17-2010, 05:05 AM
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Johnso,
Many need to beleive in the human spirit, but people also need to understand the state of the worlds overall financial health.
If you want to point fingers on spending and getting us to 14 plus trillion in debt you need to look back over the history of your life and the administration that was more than likely in office the day you were born. Everyone has played a part in getting here. It is fun to run the credit card bill up knowing that you will have moved or died by the time it comes arrives. America and many other countries need to realize that the debt needs to be paid, or allow the currency to devalue to the point that our debt is worth pennies on the dollar.
Inflation allows for the latter.
To tie that in to us, that is why I prefer a COLA bump each year versus a standard percentage. That or min % or COLA whichever is greater. If you want to go crazy, you could also write in the PWA a secondary currency.
Many need to beleive in the human spirit, but people also need to understand the state of the worlds overall financial health.
If you want to point fingers on spending and getting us to 14 plus trillion in debt you need to look back over the history of your life and the administration that was more than likely in office the day you were born. Everyone has played a part in getting here. It is fun to run the credit card bill up knowing that you will have moved or died by the time it comes arrives. America and many other countries need to realize that the debt needs to be paid, or allow the currency to devalue to the point that our debt is worth pennies on the dollar.
Inflation allows for the latter.
To tie that in to us, that is why I prefer a COLA bump each year versus a standard percentage. That or min % or COLA whichever is greater. If you want to go crazy, you could also write in the PWA a secondary currency.
02-17-2010, 05:14 AM
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I did.
It is what it is, but I disagree with one thing. If you lived life with your head in the sand, you would not be on here chatting away the problems o Delta. You do care.
In fact, we all do. What will be will be, but that does not mean that you do not want to be aware of the events that are unfolding which will ultimately effect you and your family. That my friend is just plain smart.
It is what it is, but I disagree with one thing. If you lived life with your head in the sand, you would not be on here chatting away the problems o Delta. You do care.
In fact, we all do. What will be will be, but that does not mean that you do not want to be aware of the events that are unfolding which will ultimately effect you and your family. That my friend is just plain smart.
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