Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-12-2010, 05:46 PM
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02-12-2010, 06:05 PM
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$143? Wow. Our Captains on the Delta PWA top out at $107.67 at year 12 and 12 year FOs top out at $73.54. So JB gives their 1st year pilots roughly $25 more every year from year 1 then we negotiated for the same exact plane (EMB-190).
Funny, JB pays $1.43/hour per seat and we would pay $1.07/hour per seat. ASA on their 70 seaters at year 12 is $1.24/hour per seat. We range from $1.50/hr/seat on the DC9-30 to $0.52/hr/seat on 744.
If you paid our 744 top end CAs $1.43/hr per seat you'd pay $576/hr. Sounds fair to me! Using ASA's scale you'd pay $499/hr. Hell if you paid them $1.07/hr per seat like we have already set forth for the E190 then you'd pay 744 A's $431/hr. Well above $208/hr we pay 744 and 777 As now.
I think we should negotiate by seat per hour now and just say we at a minimum want Jetblue rates, or we might settle for regional rates but no lower...
Funny, JB pays $1.43/hour per seat and we would pay $1.07/hour per seat. ASA on their 70 seaters at year 12 is $1.24/hour per seat. We range from $1.50/hr/seat on the DC9-30 to $0.52/hr/seat on 744.
If you paid our 744 top end CAs $1.43/hr per seat you'd pay $576/hr. Sounds fair to me! Using ASA's scale you'd pay $499/hr. Hell if you paid them $1.07/hr per seat like we have already set forth for the E190 then you'd pay 744 A's $431/hr. Well above $208/hr we pay 744 and 777 As now.
I think we should negotiate by seat per hour now and just say we at a minimum want Jetblue rates, or we might settle for regional rates but no lower...
Kind of impressive, but to compare apples to apples you need to look at total pilots costs, but yes, DCI probably does cost more per seat.
02-12-2010, 06:40 PM
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The one cost that isn't being considered is the "cost creep" issue of getting control of the lower end under the mainline bargaining unit....Factor that in and the cost goes way up.....
02-12-2010, 06:48 PM
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02-12-2010, 06:51 PM
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YEAH! Our PDX commuters will be very happy to hear this.
02-12-2010, 07:14 PM
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So I think this is funny. Several of the MLB teams ie Yankees/Mets have requested that Delta change the way we staff our charters with FAs. So they have held "try outs" for FAs. The Yankees have chosen 7 with 20 alternates. So no more senior mommas with suitecases to take home the left overs and NO size 28 red dresses! The Mets have requested ATL FAs only.... ???
02-12-2010, 07:17 PM
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So I think this is funny. Several of the MLB teams ie Yankees/Mets have requested that Delta change the way we staff our charters with FAs. So they have held "try outs" for FAs. The Yankees have chosen 7 with 20 alternates. So no more senior mommas with suitecases to take home the left overs and NO size 28 red dresses! The Mets have requested ATL FAs only.... ???
02-12-2010, 07:53 PM
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So I think this is funny. Several of the MLB teams ie Yankees/Mets have requested that Delta change the way we staff our charters with FAs. So they have held "try outs" for FAs. The Yankees have chosen 7 with 20 alternates. So no more senior mommas with suitecases to take home the left overs and NO size 28 red dresses! The Mets have requested ATL FAs only.... ???
02-12-2010, 10:14 PM
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So I think this is funny. Several of the MLB teams ie Yankees/Mets have requested that Delta change the way we staff our charters with FAs. So they have held "try outs" for FAs. The Yankees have chosen 7 with 20 alternates. So no more senior mommas with suitecases to take home the left overs and NO size 28 red dresses! The Mets have requested ATL FAs only.... ???
Now where do i sign up for these charters......
02-13-2010, 12:09 AM
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Now as far as a team hand picking FA's, that's hilarious.
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