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Without looking it up I believe the last count was somewhere around 65 mainline FDAL birds. The bulk of that consisted of 757/767 domestic birds with a handful of ERs. The rest were 88s. Some were retired but most were parked awaiting the upturn in the economy. Just imagining what would happen if we pulled all of those birds out of the desert gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. Especially when I think of going to 88 school in a few months.
thanks for the info. guys
... yeah if we needed them and pulled them all back to the line that would be some serious hiring!!!
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First salvo:
Delta chief blasts DOT for slot swap decision
Delta chief says government should take a more hands-off approach to dealing with airlines
ATLANTA (AP) -- The chief of the world's biggest airline says the U.S. government shouldn't be in the business of picking winners and losers in the airline industry.
Delta Air Lines CEO Richard Anderson says the Transportation Department made a bad decision this week to allow Delta and US Airways to swap takeoff and landing slots at New York and Washington airports only if they sell some of the slots to protect competition.
He told employees in a recorded message Friday that Delta will work to change the decision, but he said again that if it stands in its current form, the deal with US Airways likely won't go forward.
"Our industry needs to be deregulated," Anderson said.
He added that the DOT shouldn't be a "handicapper or picker of who wins or loses in the marketplace."
The airlines are seeking more bang for the buck in congested areas where slot access is limited. The carriers want to serve destinations where they believe they can be more profitable than on routes where they have been cutting service.
A slot is an interval of time during which an airline can takeoff or land its aircraft at an airport. Slots, especially at peak times of day and in busy corridors like the Northeast, are valuable to airlines.
US Airways agreed in August to transfer 125 operating slot pairs to Delta at LaGuardia Airport in New York. In exchange, Delta agreed to transfer 42 operating slot pairs to US Airways at Reagan National Airport in Washington.
The DOT said Tuesday it has tentatively allowed the transaction to proceed as long as the airlines sell some of their slot interests to carriers with no or limited service at the two airports.
The approval requires the airlines to sell 14 pairs of slot interests at National and 20 pairs at LaGuardia.
The airlines say that would negate a significant portion of the proposed economic benefits they would achieve through the swap. They also say that as hub and spoke carriers, the divestiture would negatively impact travelers. That's because, they say, the decision would result in the loss of opportunity for the country's smaller- and medium-sized communities that would have benefited from new service as a result of the transaction.
But the DOT is concerned about maintaining competition at the busy airports. And it believes US Airways will be too dominant at National Airport and Delta will be too dominant at LaGuardia Airport if they don't sell some of their slots.
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Force any reroute prior to the first segment to not be permitted to show any earlier than the original rotation.
Allready in the contract. You can't be rerouted prior to your first segment.
Force any 23k recovery replacement to fit within the ORIGINAL report/release time of the awarded rotation when assigned prior to the last duty period of the rotation.
Recovery flying is not reroute. I don't like our recovery flying rules either but its another section of the contract.
Trigger premium pay to occur immediately for any and all reroute flying/credit (assigned during the last duty period of the rotation)that occurs after the original block-in time.
Basically we have that with exceptions. Also the way it is calculated you normally get reroute pay which is now double pay with the recent LOA for the entire day not just the reroute portion.
Pay and credit protection for the entire rotation for reserve
es from rotation sign-in.
Again this is another section of the contract and has nothing to do with reroute. It would fall under duty rigs ect..
Allready in the contract. You can't be rerouted prior to your first segment.
Force any 23k recovery replacement to fit within the ORIGINAL report/release time of the awarded rotation when assigned prior to the last duty period of the rotation.
Recovery flying is not reroute. I don't like our recovery flying rules either but its another section of the contract.
Trigger premium pay to occur immediately for any and all reroute flying/credit (assigned during the last duty period of the rotation)that occurs after the original block-in time.
Basically we have that with exceptions. Also the way it is calculated you normally get reroute pay which is now double pay with the recent LOA for the entire day not just the reroute portion.
Pay and credit protection for the entire rotation for reserve
es from rotation sign-in.
Again this is another section of the contract and has nothing to do with reroute. It would fall under duty rigs ect..
What would you do to improve the reroute "process", if given the magic wand? You obviously have lots of past experience in this PWA and past rules at DAL.
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Summary Box: Delta CEO comment on slot swap ruling
Summary Box: Delta CEO's comments on slot swap ruling put issue in focus for travelers
The Associated Press, On Friday February 12, 2010, 12:10 pm
WHAT'S HAPPENING?: Delta Air Lines' CEO is upset the DOT is requiring Delta and US Airways to sell some of their takeoff and landing slots at New York's LaGuardia Airport and Washington's Reagan National Airport for the carriers' slot swap transaction to go through.
WHY?: The Transportation Department wants to protect competition, but the airlines believe the ruling will hurt travelers if it stands.
WHY DOES THIS MATTER?: The airlines want the slots in part so they can fly to smaller, underserved communities. They also want them so they can be more profitable.
Summary Box: Delta CEO's comments on slot swap ruling put issue in focus for travelers
The Associated Press, On Friday February 12, 2010, 12:10 pm
WHAT'S HAPPENING?: Delta Air Lines' CEO is upset the DOT is requiring Delta and US Airways to sell some of their takeoff and landing slots at New York's LaGuardia Airport and Washington's Reagan National Airport for the carriers' slot swap transaction to go through.
WHY?: The Transportation Department wants to protect competition, but the airlines believe the ruling will hurt travelers if it stands.
WHY DOES THIS MATTER?: The airlines want the slots in part so they can fly to smaller, underserved communities. They also want them so they can be more profitable.
How about profitable? They have to be profitable first in order to be "more profitable".
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Without looking it up I believe the last count was somewhere around 65 mainline FDAL birds. The bulk of that consisted of 757/767 domestic birds with a handful of ERs. The rest were 88s. Some were retired but most were parked awaiting the upturn in the economy. Just imagining what would happen if we pulled all of those birds out of the desert gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. Especially when I think of going to 88 school in a few months.
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The airlines are seeking more bang for the buck in congested areas where slot access is limited. The carriers want to serve destinations where they believe they can be more profitable than on routes where they have been cutting service.
The airlines say that would negate a significant portion of the proposed economic benefits they would achieve through the swap. They also say that as hub and spoke carriers, the divestiture would negatively impact travelers. That's because, they say, the decision would result in the loss of opportunity for the country's smaller- and medium-sized communities that would have benefited from new service as a result of the transaction.
The airlines say that would negate a significant portion of the proposed economic benefits they would achieve through the swap. They also say that as hub and spoke carriers, the divestiture would negatively impact travelers. That's because, they say, the decision would result in the loss of opportunity for the country's smaller- and medium-sized communities that would have benefited from new service as a result of the transaction.
Now, the DOT is basically ensuring Jet Blue gets access to DCA and Southwest increases LGA service. Now where do we think Blue and Southwest are going to go? To small "under served" communities, or simply overlap the biggest US Air and Delta markets that already have service?
It would be hard to make the case that Delta and US Air are gouging customers when each are charging less than the costs of doing business last year. But politicians don't seem to care about objective facts - in fact, check out the yelling at Savannah, you'd think fares were increased by $1,000:
Savannah business leaders have complained to Delta Air Lines. “The disparity in fares on Delta traffic into and out of the Savannah/Hilton Head International Airport is having a negative effect, not only on our tourism but also on our local constituents, especially regarding the extremely high fares between Savannah and Atlanta,” said the December memo from the Savannah Airport Commission, area chambers of commerce and the Savannah Area Convention & Visitors Bureau.
Savannah fares increased 2.5 percent to an ...
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Southwest and AirTran are seen as saviors, regardless of whether that's the truth, or not. Southwest pulled out of Savannah because Savannah wasn't generating enough revenue. How would these politicians like to have NO air service? Jacksonville isn't that far a drive and has a lot lower facility charges.
... and that is where the DOT is going with this. Communities which will lose their precious RJ service need to get on the phone with their Reps, otherwise competition between DCA / JFK and LGA / MCO will just get another section or two a day with the load factors diminished by a similar amount.
Southwest isn't a low cost carrier any more. Small and Medium cities will lose direct New York access (and New York might lose some tourist bucks) so that fares are maybe $5 cheaper to MCO ? Bad decision by the DOT, IMHO.
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You're number is low if you include all the DC-9 and 747-200 series airframes. While this number changes regularly, there are 4 767ER, 16 757-200, and 7 767-300 domestic stored that could be considered economically viable with good oil prices and consumer demand. Many of those airframes are 20-25 years old, however, so they are relative maintenance hogs with have older engines and electronics.
Slow, something I have not checked on that maybe you could answer. Are they still going ahead with the planned parking of the entire 767-300 fleet. I know it was planned, but we know how that changes.
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Satchip is right on. Sometimes we create our own problems. A little history might be in order. Before we had access to our own jumpseat no one considered commuting to reserve. Of course, that was also when we had no differentiation between SC/LC, it was all SC. You also didn't commute since passes cost $20 each.
We take advantage of the ability to commute now in hopes that sometime soon we will start hiring again and everyone will move up the ladder to something better. Some ppl will move to bigger equipment and some will take advantage of seniority for QOL. There are only a few in our group that currently commute out of necessity to have a job. Most of us could bid back to a more junior position in our home base. That's assuming we live in a base. For those that don't live in a base they chose commuting from the start and plan to live with it.
We take advantage of the ability to commute now in hopes that sometime soon we will start hiring again and everyone will move up the ladder to something better. Some ppl will move to bigger equipment and some will take advantage of seniority for QOL. There are only a few in our group that currently commute out of necessity to have a job. Most of us could bid back to a more junior position in our home base. That's assuming we live in a base. For those that don't live in a base they chose commuting from the start and plan to live with it.
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